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		<title>By: To Know or Not To Know? - The Pursuit of Harpyness</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/02/03/there-is-no-outside-the-patriarchy/comment-page-2/#comment-11746</link>
		<dc:creator>To Know or Not To Know? - The Pursuit of Harpyness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] and girls have different needs; the world treats them differently, since there&#8217;s no &#8220;outside the Patriarchy&#8220;.  I&#8217;d teach my daughters how to assert themselves and insist on the same privileges [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and girls have different needs; the world treats them differently, since there&#8217;s no &#8220;outside the Patriarchy&#8220;.  I&#8217;d teach my daughters how to assert themselves and insist on the same privileges [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Links for February 3rd from 13:47 to 17:31</title>
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		<dc:creator>Links for February 3rd from 13:47 to 17:31</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 08:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] The Pursuit of Harpyness: There is no “Outside the Patriarchy.” - [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: &#187; Necessity is a Mother. The Pursuit of Harpyness</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/02/03/there-is-no-outside-the-patriarchy/comment-page-2/#comment-959</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; Necessity is a Mother. The Pursuit of Harpyness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 20:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] little things around the house with their technical wizardry and manly know-how. Like I said in my last post, we can justify anything, if we want [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] little things around the house with their technical wizardry and manly know-how. Like I said in my last post, we can justify anything, if we want [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dicas &#171; Marjorie Rodrigues</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/02/03/there-is-no-outside-the-patriarchy/comment-page-2/#comment-896</link>
		<dc:creator>Dicas &#171; Marjorie Rodrigues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] E sobre o quanto esta magreza é desproporcional. - Sobre salto alto, sobre cosméticos e sobre como todo mundo está no balaio do patriarcado  (em inglês. Os três são partes de uma mesma discussão. Aliás, recomendo este blog inteiro [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] E sobre o quanto esta magreza é desproporcional. &#8211; Sobre salto alto, sobre cosméticos e sobre como todo mundo está no balaio do patriarcado  (em inglês. Os três são partes de uma mesma discussão. Aliás, recomendo este blog inteiro [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mireille</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mireille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 18:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pilgrim - An excellent example, and I think now I understand exactly what you mean.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pilgrim &#8211; An excellent example, and I think now I understand exactly what you mean.</p>
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		<title>By: uncommonwhore</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/02/03/there-is-no-outside-the-patriarchy/comment-page-2/#comment-784</link>
		<dc:creator>uncommonwhore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 17:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love this site. It&#039;s been fun for me to really explore these ideas and at the end of the day own up to what I do or some things I wasn&#039;t even aware I do because of the patriarchy. I was never really interested in studying feminism to any degree. I grew up in a small town in the middle of nowhere with an older brother who taught me to hunt and fish and do &#039;boy&#039; things. So naturally growing up I had more guys for friends. The only time I was ever inspired to wear make-up and heels was when other girls were going to be around, or the few occasions I felt like reminding them I was not one of the boys. Now, I think perhaps in spite of my profession, I&#039;ve been trying to educate myself and really find insight and inspiration. So thanks ladies... I will be trying to find my inner Harpy as well ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this site. It&#8217;s been fun for me to really explore these ideas and at the end of the day own up to what I do or some things I wasn&#8217;t even aware I do because of the patriarchy. I was never really interested in studying feminism to any degree. I grew up in a small town in the middle of nowhere with an older brother who taught me to hunt and fish and do &#8216;boy&#8217; things. So naturally growing up I had more guys for friends. The only time I was ever inspired to wear make-up and heels was when other girls were going to be around, or the few occasions I felt like reminding them I was not one of the boys. Now, I think perhaps in spite of my profession, I&#8217;ve been trying to educate myself and really find insight and inspiration. So thanks ladies&#8230; I will be trying to find my inner Harpy as well <img src='http://www.harpyness.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Pilgrim Soul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pilgrim Soul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mireille: To clarify, I&#039;m not wary of intersectionality qua concept; I am wary of the way it sometimes gets wielded.  I am fine with it questioning the primacy of gender in all situations; I am not fine with being told that the presence of other power dynamics somehow negate gender altogether, which I hear a lot.  A very facile example - the old Hillary-Obama internet wars, in which for some reason the obvious relevance of race in the national discussion of this candidate for many folks negated the notion that Hillary&#039;s candidacy could have been affected by gender norms.

Also, welcome!  Good to have you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mireille: To clarify, I&#8217;m not wary of intersectionality qua concept; I am wary of the way it sometimes gets wielded.  I am fine with it questioning the primacy of gender in all situations; I am not fine with being told that the presence of other power dynamics somehow negate gender altogether, which I hear a lot.  A very facile example &#8211; the old Hillary-Obama internet wars, in which for some reason the obvious relevance of race in the national discussion of this candidate for many folks negated the notion that Hillary&#8217;s candidacy could have been affected by gender norms.</p>
<p>Also, welcome!  Good to have you.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 12:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I LOVED this post. I tried to follow all the comments, but there are so many! It&#039;s a sign of a fantastic, stimulating post. :) 
After reading your thoughts PhDork, my friend was telling me about a sexist encounter she had- she only had time to tell me this:
While chatting with her former boss she was introduced to another business man who was looking for someone in HR to employ. His comment to her: &quot;It&#039;s so shitty, all 4 of my HR girls are on Mat leave- can you BELIEVE it??&quot; She thought he was kidding. I guess from the rest of their conversation he really wasn&#039;t as it degraded considerably from there.
While she was reporting this &#039;chat&#039; with a colleague (female) of hers at her work- her colleague basically had this to say: &quot;well I can see his point- taking maternity leave is not a good career move for women and hurts the company&quot; Her colleague thought her point was a feminist perspective. 
My response to my friend: &quot;But WHY does your colleague feel that way? and WHY is mat leave a bad career move for women?&quot;

I think often many women who haven&#039;t read feminist books, readings or taken a women studies class have a watered down, misguided and backlash-influenced perspective of what feminism is. This article is EXACTLY how I feel and what I want to say to women who proclaim: &quot;I had breast implants for ME and not for society&quot;

Awesome.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I LOVED this post. I tried to follow all the comments, but there are so many! It&#8217;s a sign of a fantastic, stimulating post. <img src='http://www.harpyness.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
After reading your thoughts PhDork, my friend was telling me about a sexist encounter she had- she only had time to tell me this:<br />
While chatting with her former boss she was introduced to another business man who was looking for someone in HR to employ. His comment to her: &#8220;It&#8217;s so shitty, all 4 of my HR girls are on Mat leave- can you BELIEVE it??&#8221; She thought he was kidding. I guess from the rest of their conversation he really wasn&#8217;t as it degraded considerably from there.<br />
While she was reporting this &#8216;chat&#8217; with a colleague (female) of hers at her work- her colleague basically had this to say: &#8220;well I can see his point- taking maternity leave is not a good career move for women and hurts the company&#8221; Her colleague thought her point was a feminist perspective.<br />
My response to my friend: &#8220;But WHY does your colleague feel that way? and WHY is mat leave a bad career move for women?&#8221;</p>
<p>I think often many women who haven&#8217;t read feminist books, readings or taken a women studies class have a watered down, misguided and backlash-influenced perspective of what feminism is. This article is EXACTLY how I feel and what I want to say to women who proclaim: &#8220;I had breast implants for ME and not for society&#8221;</p>
<p>Awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: Trina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 07:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fantastic post! I&#039;ve been reading since this blog started, but hadn&#039;t yet felt moved to say anything. I think this post speaks to things discussed elsewhere in a way that cuts to the heart of things. We often get sidetracked in tangential discussions, rather than dealing with the issue at hand.

I myself do things that adhere to/perpetuate the current standard of &quot;femininity&quot; (e.g. shaving my armpits, wearing lipstick when I go out). And while I do most of them for &quot;my own reasons&quot;, I am always conscious of the fact that their foundation lies in the patriarchy. I would never have *thought* of shaving my armpits if female hairlessness wasn&#039;t taught to me. I wouldn&#039;t dislike the paleness of my lips au naturale if I hadn&#039;t learned that color was &quot;preferred&quot;.

As you said, there is no separating ourselves from our patriarchical culture. My only hope is to try to teach and maintain neutrality with my nieces and nephews (and thoretical future offspring). Not that I think they will be exempt, but I&#039;d like to instill the notion of questioning the &quot;standards&quot; as early as possible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic post! I&#8217;ve been reading since this blog started, but hadn&#8217;t yet felt moved to say anything. I think this post speaks to things discussed elsewhere in a way that cuts to the heart of things. We often get sidetracked in tangential discussions, rather than dealing with the issue at hand.</p>
<p>I myself do things that adhere to/perpetuate the current standard of &#8220;femininity&#8221; (e.g. shaving my armpits, wearing lipstick when I go out). And while I do most of them for &#8220;my own reasons&#8221;, I am always conscious of the fact that their foundation lies in the patriarchy. I would never have *thought* of shaving my armpits if female hairlessness wasn&#8217;t taught to me. I wouldn&#8217;t dislike the paleness of my lips au naturale if I hadn&#8217;t learned that color was &#8220;preferred&#8221;.</p>
<p>As you said, there is no separating ourselves from our patriarchical culture. My only hope is to try to teach and maintain neutrality with my nieces and nephews (and thoretical future offspring). Not that I think they will be exempt, but I&#8217;d like to instill the notion of questioning the &#8220;standards&#8221; as early as possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Mireille</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mireille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 06:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah, so this is where the feminist Jezzies gather.  Just found this site from a Feministing link the other day and recognized pretty much all the blogmistresses as commenters I like to read.  Anyway...

P Soul, I understand your wariness of intersectionality, to a point...  It is often used to try to blur lines and de-emphasize important points, but a lack of intersectional analysis is what I believe led to many Feminists of color abandoning or never joining the &quot;mainstream&quot; feminist movement and seeing it as a movement for middle class white women.  An excellent example of this being how mainstream feminism is adamantly for access to abortion while many women of color have found abortion nearly forced upon them.  Not the opposite side of the coin, the may still be pro-choice, but the common pro-choice platform barely takes into forced sterilization some minority women may encounter.  And it leads also, for trans feminists (such as myself) to feel heartily included in some venues, and pretty violently rejected in others.  I think there are definitely feminist issues that are experienced by most women and mostly only women, but so many oppressions are a tangled web between gender, sexuality, race, class, ability, religion etc...  My feeling is what we all need to do is keep our minds open and our listening skills up so we can take into account the experiences of others as it is easy (as I&#039;ve seen on many blogs) to react defensively and all of a sudden it&#039;s just a back and forth recrimination-fest.

Anyway, I read many of the main feminist blogs and I&#039;m such a fan of the writers here from seeing them on Jezebel that I&#039;m excited to see how this blog develops.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, so this is where the feminist Jezzies gather.  Just found this site from a Feministing link the other day and recognized pretty much all the blogmistresses as commenters I like to read.  Anyway&#8230;</p>
<p>P Soul, I understand your wariness of intersectionality, to a point&#8230;  It is often used to try to blur lines and de-emphasize important points, but a lack of intersectional analysis is what I believe led to many Feminists of color abandoning or never joining the &#8220;mainstream&#8221; feminist movement and seeing it as a movement for middle class white women.  An excellent example of this being how mainstream feminism is adamantly for access to abortion while many women of color have found abortion nearly forced upon them.  Not the opposite side of the coin, the may still be pro-choice, but the common pro-choice platform barely takes into forced sterilization some minority women may encounter.  And it leads also, for trans feminists (such as myself) to feel heartily included in some venues, and pretty violently rejected in others.  I think there are definitely feminist issues that are experienced by most women and mostly only women, but so many oppressions are a tangled web between gender, sexuality, race, class, ability, religion etc&#8230;  My feeling is what we all need to do is keep our minds open and our listening skills up so we can take into account the experiences of others as it is easy (as I&#8217;ve seen on many blogs) to react defensively and all of a sudden it&#8217;s just a back and forth recrimination-fest.</p>
<p>Anyway, I read many of the main feminist blogs and I&#8217;m such a fan of the writers here from seeing them on Jezebel that I&#8217;m excited to see how this blog develops.</p>
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