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	<title>Comments on: She knows how well abstinence-ed works.</title>
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		<title>By: Dori</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/02/18/she-knows-how-well-abstinence-ed-works/comment-page-1/#comment-1842</link>
		<dc:creator>Dori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 15:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My heart goes out to this girl, really...that statement about abstinence seemed so difficult, because it was clear to me that she was trying to stay in a particular vein re: birth control, but wanted to speak to her own mind and experience.

I was just wondering, did anyone else feel uncomfortable with the question that led to this admission of abstinence being unrealistic? I feel like it could have been framed better, and that it was actually quite antagonistic. &quot;Were you just lazy about [birth control]?&quot; seems like a pretty nasty way to ask about her non-use of it, and has an undertone of the responsibility for BC is the woman&#039;s regardless of whether she is prepared with facts about it or not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My heart goes out to this girl, really&#8230;that statement about abstinence seemed so difficult, because it was clear to me that she was trying to stay in a particular vein re: birth control, but wanted to speak to her own mind and experience.</p>
<p>I was just wondering, did anyone else feel uncomfortable with the question that led to this admission of abstinence being unrealistic? I feel like it could have been framed better, and that it was actually quite antagonistic. &#8220;Were you just lazy about [birth control]?&#8221; seems like a pretty nasty way to ask about her non-use of it, and has an undertone of the responsibility for BC is the woman&#8217;s regardless of whether she is prepared with facts about it or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Av0gadro</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/02/18/she-knows-how-well-abstinence-ed-works/comment-page-1/#comment-1803</link>
		<dc:creator>Av0gadro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 21:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To be fair, I had my son at 28, and every once in a while I find myself wistfully wondering about my life if I&#039;d waited five years - we could have traveled more, and paid off the car first and gone out more often. There&#039;s really no time it&#039;s convenient to fit a child into your life. 

That said, I got a college education and even some grad school while I was still responsible for no one but me, and Bristol&#039;s never going to have that. And parental support is great, but JerseyGrrrl&#039;s right, it comes with strings even when your mom doesn&#039;t have political aspirations. A girl in my parenting group had a baby right before she turned twenty, and she lives at home and goes to school, which is great, but her step-dad wouldn&#039;t let her do any sleep training because it bothered him when the baby cried, and her mom refused to babysit on her twenty-first birthday because she didn&#039;t approve of drinking . . . It&#039;s never easy, and Bristol&#039;s caught in the middle of that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair, I had my son at 28, and every once in a while I find myself wistfully wondering about my life if I&#8217;d waited five years &#8211; we could have traveled more, and paid off the car first and gone out more often. There&#8217;s really no time it&#8217;s convenient to fit a child into your life. </p>
<p>That said, I got a college education and even some grad school while I was still responsible for no one but me, and Bristol&#8217;s never going to have that. And parental support is great, but JerseyGrrrl&#8217;s right, it comes with strings even when your mom doesn&#8217;t have political aspirations. A girl in my parenting group had a baby right before she turned twenty, and she lives at home and goes to school, which is great, but her step-dad wouldn&#8217;t let her do any sleep training because it bothered him when the baby cried, and her mom refused to babysit on her twenty-first birthday because she didn&#8217;t approve of drinking . . . It&#8217;s never easy, and Bristol&#8217;s caught in the middle of that.</p>
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		<title>By: JerseyGrrrl</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/02/18/she-knows-how-well-abstinence-ed-works/comment-page-1/#comment-1765</link>
		<dc:creator>JerseyGrrrl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 00:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I feel bad for her too, fishing. I can&#039;t imagine not wanting a certain life (or at least not yet) and then suddenly, because you can&#039;t imagine making a choice, you just kind of suddenly have to accept something, something that&#039;s nothing if not permanent. Now, thanks to the ideology her family&#039;s signed her up for, she&#039;s got a future husband she might not be too jazzed about in a few years and a baby she&#039;s in no way prepared for. At least her family is supportive, but you get the impression their version of supportive might be incredibly suffocating.

Can YOU imagine if you had married a high school boyfriend?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel bad for her too, fishing. I can&#8217;t imagine not wanting a certain life (or at least not yet) and then suddenly, because you can&#8217;t imagine making a choice, you just kind of suddenly have to accept something, something that&#8217;s nothing if not permanent. Now, thanks to the ideology her family&#8217;s signed her up for, she&#8217;s got a future husband she might not be too jazzed about in a few years and a baby she&#8217;s in no way prepared for. At least her family is supportive, but you get the impression their version of supportive might be incredibly suffocating.</p>
<p>Can YOU imagine if you had married a high school boyfriend?</p>
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		<title>By: swedishfishing</title>
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		<dc:creator>swedishfishing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 23:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aw, I feel bad for her. She probably never wanted to be the poster child[mom] for teen pregnancy and the failure of abstinence-only education. I imagine she has people pulling at her from all angles to spout really contradictory views about her mother&#039;s politics, so I&#039;m kind of surprised that she admitted that abstinence is unrealistic. It sucks that she (probably) wasn&#039;t informed enough about birth control to really make motherhood a choice, but she seems to be coming to terms with a lot of her own opinions now, so I think she&#039;ll be ok. 

That said, PLEASE let this be the last Alaska Palin we hear from for a long time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aw, I feel bad for her. She probably never wanted to be the poster child[mom] for teen pregnancy and the failure of abstinence-only education. I imagine she has people pulling at her from all angles to spout really contradictory views about her mother&#8217;s politics, so I&#8217;m kind of surprised that she admitted that abstinence is unrealistic. It sucks that she (probably) wasn&#8217;t informed enough about birth control to really make motherhood a choice, but she seems to be coming to terms with a lot of her own opinions now, so I think she&#8217;ll be ok. </p>
<p>That said, PLEASE let this be the last Alaska Palin we hear from for a long time.</p>
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		<title>By: sarah.of.a.lesser.god</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/02/18/she-knows-how-well-abstinence-ed-works/comment-page-1/#comment-1747</link>
		<dc:creator>sarah.of.a.lesser.god</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bristol, if you* ever get stressed and need someone to babysit, I would be more than willing to keep Tripp entertained for a few hours.  I promise not to give him bisexual Jew cooties or anything.  Here&#039;s hoping you equip your child (or children) with better sex ed and/or protection than your mother seemed to do for you.  Choose your choice Bristol, and I don&#039;t mean than pejoratively.

*Yes, I know she will never read this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bristol, if you* ever get stressed and need someone to babysit, I would be more than willing to keep Tripp entertained for a few hours.  I promise not to give him bisexual Jew cooties or anything.  Here&#8217;s hoping you equip your child (or children) with better sex ed and/or protection than your mother seemed to do for you.  Choose your choice Bristol, and I don&#8217;t mean than pejoratively.</p>
<p>*Yes, I know she will never read this.</p>
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		<title>By: PhDork</title>
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		<dc:creator>PhDork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kivrin, I don&#039;t fault her either.  And I don&#039;t doubt her affection for Trippppppp.  The point is, as the unplanned poster child (Hi-yoooo!) for the rightwing abstinence--or, you know, &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt;--crazies, she doesn&#039;t have much of a choice, about family planning or anything else.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kivrin, I don&#8217;t fault her either.  And I don&#8217;t doubt her affection for Trippppppp.  The point is, as the unplanned poster child (Hi-yoooo!) for the rightwing abstinence&#8211;or, you know, <em>not</em>&#8211;crazies, she doesn&#8217;t have much of a choice, about family planning or anything else.</p>
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		<title>By: Britni (Vagina Wig)</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/02/18/she-knows-how-well-abstinence-ed-works/comment-page-1/#comment-1745</link>
		<dc:creator>Britni (Vagina Wig)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sure she does love her baby. But that doesn&#039;t mean she doesn&#039;t wish she had waited until she was older/ready to have kids.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure she does love her baby. But that doesn&#8217;t mean she doesn&#8217;t wish she had waited until she was older/ready to have kids.</p>
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		<title>By: Kivrin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kivrin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmm, I don&#039;t fault Bristol for repeatedly assuring the TV audience (and herself?) that she really loves her baby and wouldn&#039;t change a thing.  This was a televised interview, after all, and I&#039;m sure she doesn&#039;t want her child to grow up knowing that &quot;Mommy went on national TV when I was a baby and said she regretted ever having me!&quot;

Otherwise, yeah, I&#039;m with you all the way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, I don&#8217;t fault Bristol for repeatedly assuring the TV audience (and herself?) that she really loves her baby and wouldn&#8217;t change a thing.  This was a televised interview, after all, and I&#8217;m sure she doesn&#8217;t want her child to grow up knowing that &#8220;Mommy went on national TV when I was a baby and said she regretted ever having me!&#8221;</p>
<p>Otherwise, yeah, I&#8217;m with you all the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Pilgrim Soul</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/02/18/she-knows-how-well-abstinence-ed-works/comment-page-1/#comment-1742</link>
		<dc:creator>Pilgrim Soul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just feel so frustrated that there&#039;s no way for women like us to get at the Bristol Palins of the world, because in that one slip-up, you can see how she could get out of feeling like her self-worth is defined by what other people (including her mother) think of her.  Oh well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just feel so frustrated that there&#8217;s no way for women like us to get at the Bristol Palins of the world, because in that one slip-up, you can see how she could get out of feeling like her self-worth is defined by what other people (including her mother) think of her.  Oh well.</p>
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		<title>By: Britni (Vagina Wig)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Britni (Vagina Wig)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I feel bad for her because I don&#039;t think that she was equipped to make safe decisions. Because of abstinence-only education, she wasn&#039;t taught how to prevent pregnancy should she choose to have sex. Ok, I am going to copy and paste part of my own blog post on this so that I don&#039;t have to type it all again:

&quot;She didn&#039;t want to &quot;get into detail&quot; about why she didn&#039;t use any form of birth control when she decided to have sex. My guess is because she didn&#039;t know what her options were. When you&#039;re taught that condoms are ineffective and don&#039;t know that you have access to the pill or just have no idea how to prevent pregnancy, there is no way for you to take any precautions. I&#039;m sure her not wanting to get into detail was because by admitting that, she is basically discrediting her mother&#039;s entire political agenda.&quot;

I really do feel bad for her, but I think it took balls to stand up and admit that it isn&#039;t realistic and to say that teens are going to have sex, even if she didn&#039;t want to stray too far from her mom&#039;s platform and advocated abstinence, if possible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel bad for her because I don&#8217;t think that she was equipped to make safe decisions. Because of abstinence-only education, she wasn&#8217;t taught how to prevent pregnancy should she choose to have sex. Ok, I am going to copy and paste part of my own blog post on this so that I don&#8217;t have to type it all again:</p>
<p>&#8220;She didn&#8217;t want to &#8220;get into detail&#8221; about why she didn&#8217;t use any form of birth control when she decided to have sex. My guess is because she didn&#8217;t know what her options were. When you&#8217;re taught that condoms are ineffective and don&#8217;t know that you have access to the pill or just have no idea how to prevent pregnancy, there is no way for you to take any precautions. I&#8217;m sure her not wanting to get into detail was because by admitting that, she is basically discrediting her mother&#8217;s entire political agenda.&#8221;</p>
<p>I really do feel bad for her, but I think it took balls to stand up and admit that it isn&#8217;t realistic and to say that teens are going to have sex, even if she didn&#8217;t want to stray too far from her mom&#8217;s platform and advocated abstinence, if possible.</p>
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