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		<title>By: karen</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/02/28/how-do-you-solve-a-problem-like-rihannas/comment-page-1/#comment-2976</link>
		<dc:creator>karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At the risk of sounding evil, what ever happened to the fact that adults (as compared to abused children) have choices available to them, and one of those choices it to LEAVE.  They may be difficult choices, but they&#039;re still choices.  I&#039;m really not blaming the victim here, I&#039;m really just trying to make sense of this...I was abused as a child and wasn&#039;t able to leave; I watched my dad (yes, it happens to men, too) be abused by mother and he chose not to leave (despite their many separations) so I guess I somewhat resent adults who claim victim of abuse status.  Also, at what point are people choosing to be victims?  And before I get flamed for this, I really do understand the cycle of violence, and how truly difficult it can be to leave.  I just have mixed feelings about domestic violence (not that I&#039;m pro-dv or anything) including calling it domestic violence - it&#039;s assault, and I feel like calling it domestic violence minimizes it in someway.  I really struggle with the role of choices and personal responsibility (again, not that I believe anybody deserves to be assaulted, beheaded, set on fire) in these situations.  And, I somewhat cringe at the way  women are portrayed as weak victims at the hands of big, bad, strong, scary men.  I hope this post makes some sense...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the risk of sounding evil, what ever happened to the fact that adults (as compared to abused children) have choices available to them, and one of those choices it to LEAVE.  They may be difficult choices, but they&#8217;re still choices.  I&#8217;m really not blaming the victim here, I&#8217;m really just trying to make sense of this&#8230;I was abused as a child and wasn&#8217;t able to leave; I watched my dad (yes, it happens to men, too) be abused by mother and he chose not to leave (despite their many separations) so I guess I somewhat resent adults who claim victim of abuse status.  Also, at what point are people choosing to be victims?  And before I get flamed for this, I really do understand the cycle of violence, and how truly difficult it can be to leave.  I just have mixed feelings about domestic violence (not that I&#8217;m pro-dv or anything) including calling it domestic violence &#8211; it&#8217;s assault, and I feel like calling it domestic violence minimizes it in someway.  I really struggle with the role of choices and personal responsibility (again, not that I believe anybody deserves to be assaulted, beheaded, set on fire) in these situations.  And, I somewhat cringe at the way  women are portrayed as weak victims at the hands of big, bad, strong, scary men.  I hope this post makes some sense&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Vicariousrising</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/02/28/how-do-you-solve-a-problem-like-rihannas/comment-page-1/#comment-2939</link>
		<dc:creator>Vicariousrising</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PS, I am so glad you wrote this post. 

Although I&#039;ve never been the victim of abuse by a partner and I am reasonably certain I&#039;d be out the door immediately should it happen, I was abused as a child. Your sense of reality gets very warped when you are a battered child (or victim of any sort, I presume), I recognizing how wrong the other person is and that nothing you did deserved such treatment simply doesn&#039;t register. It&#039;s taken me over a decade if therapy to untangle my feelings of guilt and responsibilty for my own abuse. 

I feel so sad for Rihanna. I wish we could all give her the self esteem to see what we see so she could escape before things get worse.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS, I am so glad you wrote this post. </p>
<p>Although I&#8217;ve never been the victim of abuse by a partner and I am reasonably certain I&#8217;d be out the door immediately should it happen, I was abused as a child. Your sense of reality gets very warped when you are a battered child (or victim of any sort, I presume), I recognizing how wrong the other person is and that nothing you did deserved such treatment simply doesn&#8217;t register. It&#8217;s taken me over a decade if therapy to untangle my feelings of guilt and responsibilty for my own abuse. </p>
<p>I feel so sad for Rihanna. I wish we could all give her the self esteem to see what we see so she could escape before things get worse.</p>
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		<title>By: Pilgrim Soul</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/02/28/how-do-you-solve-a-problem-like-rihannas/comment-page-1/#comment-2723</link>
		<dc:creator>Pilgrim Soul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, Penny, if I stepped away from the internet every time I got mad/frustrated this blog wouldn&#039;t exist.

JetGirl: Yep.  I&#039;ve done work with abused women mostly in the context of immigration petitions, and some of them stayed through absolutely horrific abuse.  And these were canny, resourceful women.  Just... the internal issues are what they are.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, Penny, if I stepped away from the internet every time I got mad/frustrated this blog wouldn&#8217;t exist.</p>
<p>JetGirl: Yep.  I&#8217;ve done work with abused women mostly in the context of immigration petitions, and some of them stayed through absolutely horrific abuse.  And these were canny, resourceful women.  Just&#8230; the internal issues are what they are.</p>
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		<title>By: Penny</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/02/28/how-do-you-solve-a-problem-like-rihannas/comment-page-1/#comment-2720</link>
		<dc:creator>Penny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I understand where a lot of the logic is coming from; what makes me mad is that those people are not understanding where positions like mine are rooted.  When I say it&#039;s none of my business, I don&#039;t necessarily think it should be &quot;private,&quot; which people seem to equate with it being hidden.  I guess I am just uncomfortable with the overall feeling of judgment and lack of empathy I am hearing in a lot of people&#039;s comments.  And, I think we see a lot of comments centering around what particular commenters would &quot;never&quot; do, in general, just not around this subject.

Basically, I am having a hard time articulating how I am feeling about this, because I&#039;m just getting mad/frustrated.  Which is why I should perhaps step away from the Internet.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand where a lot of the logic is coming from; what makes me mad is that those people are not understanding where positions like mine are rooted.  When I say it&#8217;s none of my business, I don&#8217;t necessarily think it should be &#8220;private,&#8221; which people seem to equate with it being hidden.  I guess I am just uncomfortable with the overall feeling of judgment and lack of empathy I am hearing in a lot of people&#8217;s comments.  And, I think we see a lot of comments centering around what particular commenters would &#8220;never&#8221; do, in general, just not around this subject.</p>
<p>Basically, I am having a hard time articulating how I am feeling about this, because I&#8217;m just getting mad/frustrated.  Which is why I should perhaps step away from the Internet&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: JetGirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>JetGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In my early days as a journalist, I wrote a lot about domestic abuse issues, and the shelter and hotline workers I talked to told me it may take as many as six to seven times before the abused person finally leaves the abuser. And in many cases, the most dangerous time for the woman is after she leaves. Fear can be a big incentive for returning, as sad as it sounds.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my early days as a journalist, I wrote a lot about domestic abuse issues, and the shelter and hotline workers I talked to told me it may take as many as six to seven times before the abused person finally leaves the abuser. And in many cases, the most dangerous time for the woman is after she leaves. Fear can be a big incentive for returning, as sad as it sounds.</p>
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		<title>By: Pilgrim Soul</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/02/28/how-do-you-solve-a-problem-like-rihannas/comment-page-1/#comment-2715</link>
		<dc:creator>Pilgrim Soul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pen - thanks.  she was actually a second cousin I did not know well, but heard about from her justifications from her family members.

here is what I think.  I want to live in a world where no one hits anyone ever, for any reason.  I don&#039;t think anyone &quot;deserves&quot; it.  I don&#039;t think you did, and I don&#039;t think Rihanna did, and I don&#039;t think kids do.  I think the only reason we think of these things as not cut and dry is because we think violence is inevitable, and I just don&#039;t think that, at least not from the perspective of someone who thinks people can and do change, that we are not stuck with what we&#039;ve already got.  That&#039;s the best I can do.  I think the Jezebel commentariat is somewhat... young about these difficult issues sometimes.  But I think they are speaking their judgement from the place of never wanting anyone to get hit, and to the extent they are, I get that they&#039;re going to phrase their anger poorly.

I am afraid of having a bounded private sphere ever, just because it is traditionally in private spaces where people suffer most directly at the hands of other people, and cutting society out of the conversation - when to me it was there anyway, influencing those people&#039;s choices, allowing someone to think that when they are angry it is worth hitting someone else about - well, I just can&#039;t do it, not entirely.  My perspective may be limited from the outside, but the truth is, perspective on the inside gets limited too.  It&#039;s nihilism otherwise, because detail upon detail get piled up.

I don&#039;t know what the answer is, sadly.  Like this, as like most other bad things that happen to women just because they are women, I just feel profoundly sad.  And I want to give them my cat to snuggle.  She is very soft, and dislikes how  human upset harshes her mellow, and so works to make people laugh.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pen &#8211; thanks.  she was actually a second cousin I did not know well, but heard about from her justifications from her family members.</p>
<p>here is what I think.  I want to live in a world where no one hits anyone ever, for any reason.  I don&#8217;t think anyone &#8220;deserves&#8221; it.  I don&#8217;t think you did, and I don&#8217;t think Rihanna did, and I don&#8217;t think kids do.  I think the only reason we think of these things as not cut and dry is because we think violence is inevitable, and I just don&#8217;t think that, at least not from the perspective of someone who thinks people can and do change, that we are not stuck with what we&#8217;ve already got.  That&#8217;s the best I can do.  I think the Jezebel commentariat is somewhat&#8230; young about these difficult issues sometimes.  But I think they are speaking their judgement from the place of never wanting anyone to get hit, and to the extent they are, I get that they&#8217;re going to phrase their anger poorly.</p>
<p>I am afraid of having a bounded private sphere ever, just because it is traditionally in private spaces where people suffer most directly at the hands of other people, and cutting society out of the conversation &#8211; when to me it was there anyway, influencing those people&#8217;s choices, allowing someone to think that when they are angry it is worth hitting someone else about &#8211; well, I just can&#8217;t do it, not entirely.  My perspective may be limited from the outside, but the truth is, perspective on the inside gets limited too.  It&#8217;s nihilism otherwise, because detail upon detail get piled up.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what the answer is, sadly.  Like this, as like most other bad things that happen to women just because they are women, I just feel profoundly sad.  And I want to give them my cat to snuggle.  She is very soft, and dislikes how  human upset harshes her mellow, and so works to make people laugh.</p>
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		<title>By: Penny</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/02/28/how-do-you-solve-a-problem-like-rihannas/comment-page-1/#comment-2712</link>
		<dc:creator>Penny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They often think that, I meant to say......]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They often think that, I meant to say&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Penny</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/02/28/how-do-you-solve-a-problem-like-rihannas/comment-page-1/#comment-2711</link>
		<dc:creator>Penny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I also think it&#039;s important to realize that abuse victims think they deserved it.  I was hit, once, and I still think I deserved it, because I was cheating on him.  It&#039;s never cut and dry.

Also, I am really sorry to hear about your cousin, PS.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also think it&#8217;s important to realize that abuse victims think they deserved it.  I was hit, once, and I still think I deserved it, because I was cheating on him.  It&#8217;s never cut and dry.</p>
<p>Also, I am really sorry to hear about your cousin, PS.</p>
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		<title>By: Penny</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/02/28/how-do-you-solve-a-problem-like-rihannas/comment-page-1/#comment-2710</link>
		<dc:creator>Penny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have to say I am largely grossed out by the reaction I&#039;ve seen on Jezebel (the only gossip-related site I read).  I am tired that because I think it&#039;s something that should be worked out between the two of them, I&#039;m told I want to excuse the situation or sweep it under the rug.  I am tired of the assertion that she must be the new spokesperson for DV.  I am tired of hearing &quot;I would NEVER do that.&quot;  I am tired of the judgment, period.

I feel like I am in some kind of alternative Universe all of a sudden.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say I am largely grossed out by the reaction I&#8217;ve seen on Jezebel (the only gossip-related site I read).  I am tired that because I think it&#8217;s something that should be worked out between the two of them, I&#8217;m told I want to excuse the situation or sweep it under the rug.  I am tired of the assertion that she must be the new spokesperson for DV.  I am tired of hearing &#8220;I would NEVER do that.&#8221;  I am tired of the judgment, period.</p>
<p>I feel like I am in some kind of alternative Universe all of a sudden.</p>
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		<title>By: lotesse</title>
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		<dc:creator>lotesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shoot, that poor girl. On the one hand, I really don&#039;t want to say what she ought to do, because she&#039;s lost enough agency in this whole debacle. But on the other hand - urgh.

Chris Brown really needs to stand up and do some major talking, if this is true. None of the sort-of apology bs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shoot, that poor girl. On the one hand, I really don&#8217;t want to say what she ought to do, because she&#8217;s lost enough agency in this whole debacle. But on the other hand &#8211; urgh.</p>
<p>Chris Brown really needs to stand up and do some major talking, if this is true. None of the sort-of apology bs.</p>
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