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	<title>Comments on: Feminist Food For Thought: Alice Walker</title>
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		<title>By: blkgrl</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/03/04/feminist-food-for-thought-alice-walker/comment-page-1/#comment-4672</link>
		<dc:creator>blkgrl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[womanist is for women of color. white women CANNOT be identified as womanist, it&#039;s not an expression that your mothers would have used to describe you.  the first prong states: a BLACK feminist or feminist of color.  From the black folk expression of mothers to female children, “You acting womanish,” i.e., like a woman. …

I&#039;m always leary of white women who want to co-opt everything for themselves.  Can&#039;t black/women of color have something that JUST belongs to us?  Why would you want to be identified as womanists?  You don&#039;t understand the culture and interior of black women&#039;s lives enough to take ownership of the term &quot;womanist.&quot;  Be okay with feminist and let womanist be for BLACK feminists or women of color.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>womanist is for women of color. white women CANNOT be identified as womanist, it&#8217;s not an expression that your mothers would have used to describe you.  the first prong states: a BLACK feminist or feminist of color.  From the black folk expression of mothers to female children, “You acting womanish,” i.e., like a woman. …</p>
<p>I&#8217;m always leary of white women who want to co-opt everything for themselves.  Can&#8217;t black/women of color have something that JUST belongs to us?  Why would you want to be identified as womanists?  You don&#8217;t understand the culture and interior of black women&#8217;s lives enough to take ownership of the term &#8220;womanist.&#8221;  Be okay with feminist and let womanist be for BLACK feminists or women of color.</p>
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		<title>By: Links for February 25th through March 13th</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/03/04/feminist-food-for-thought-alice-walker/comment-page-1/#comment-3764</link>
		<dc:creator>Links for February 25th through March 13th</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 22:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Feminist Food For Thought: Alice Walker - &#8220;Womanist is to feminist as purple is to lavender.&#8221; [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Feminist Food For Thought: Alice Walker &#8211; &#8220;Womanist is to feminist as purple is to lavender.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Pilgrim Soul</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/03/04/feminist-food-for-thought-alice-walker/comment-page-1/#comment-3064</link>
		<dc:creator>Pilgrim Soul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No worries, AFLV, and it&#039;s not like I haven&#039;t occasionally though unintentionally been part of the &quot;shutting down WOC&quot; tide.  It&#039;s a crap thing about white privilege, that you can&#039;t always see it.

And what needs to happen to get the rest of the world to catch up is the eternal activist&#039;s conundrum.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No worries, AFLV, and it&#8217;s not like I haven&#8217;t occasionally though unintentionally been part of the &#8220;shutting down WOC&#8221; tide.  It&#8217;s a crap thing about white privilege, that you can&#8217;t always see it.</p>
<p>And what needs to happen to get the rest of the world to catch up is the eternal activist&#8217;s conundrum.</p>
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		<title>By: AnnoyingFemaleLeadVoiceover</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/03/04/feminist-food-for-thought-alice-walker/comment-page-1/#comment-3059</link>
		<dc:creator>AnnoyingFemaleLeadVoiceover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 02:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@myself:  That post script isn&#039;t directed at PS or anyone on this site.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@myself:  That post script isn&#8217;t directed at PS or anyone on this site.</p>
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		<title>By: AnnoyingFemaleLeadVoiceover</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/03/04/feminist-food-for-thought-alice-walker/comment-page-1/#comment-3058</link>
		<dc:creator>AnnoyingFemaleLeadVoiceover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 02:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I haven&#039;t read any Walker and never really encountered the descriptor &quot;womanist&quot; before, but there&#039;s something that definitely resonates when I read her definitions, particularly the first. There&#039;s something about it that feels alive, embodies how/what I do everyday. That said I am a feminist (and after more reading might identify as both). 

I don&#039;t think feminist should be abandoned in an effort to make others feel included, at some point labels are just that, but I want to see real action and alternatives on how women of color  and poor women are incorporated into larger feminist aims and progress. I just feel like everyone recognizes/can speak the &quot;language&quot; (class! race!queer! able bodied!)but no one is doing much to have a damn conversation. 

In my funky metaphor, womanist is there, a dialect--familiar but different enough that some translating needs to occur on both sides. What happens during and after that conversation I don&#039;t know. I&#039;ve seen plenty of lively discussion where feminists/womanists &quot;get it&quot; but what needs to happen to get the rest of the world to catch up? 

/rambling. I&#039;ve just sort of been off put lately by the way that WOC and poor women (and to some extent men) seem to be marched out when a point needs to be proven or to demonstrate awareness and then promptly ignored when we make too much noise.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t read any Walker and never really encountered the descriptor &#8220;womanist&#8221; before, but there&#8217;s something that definitely resonates when I read her definitions, particularly the first. There&#8217;s something about it that feels alive, embodies how/what I do everyday. That said I am a feminist (and after more reading might identify as both). </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think feminist should be abandoned in an effort to make others feel included, at some point labels are just that, but I want to see real action and alternatives on how women of color  and poor women are incorporated into larger feminist aims and progress. I just feel like everyone recognizes/can speak the &#8220;language&#8221; (class! race!queer! able bodied!)but no one is doing much to have a damn conversation. </p>
<p>In my funky metaphor, womanist is there, a dialect&#8211;familiar but different enough that some translating needs to occur on both sides. What happens during and after that conversation I don&#8217;t know. I&#8217;ve seen plenty of lively discussion where feminists/womanists &#8220;get it&#8221; but what needs to happen to get the rest of the world to catch up? </p>
<p>/rambling. I&#8217;ve just sort of been off put lately by the way that WOC and poor women (and to some extent men) seem to be marched out when a point needs to be proven or to demonstrate awareness and then promptly ignored when we make too much noise.</p>
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		<title>By: DangerMouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>DangerMouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 00:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess I see why the term womanist might be preferred for use by some cultures, but I think it can count as a subset of feminism. I agree that it sounds more universal than it is though.

Whether or not feminism needs a new word in order to rebrand itself (away from feminist=hairy-legged lesbians) is another issue that this has made me wonder about. (Should we need to? No. Might it help? Unclear.) Then my brain went to the whole Catholic church Buddy Jesus part of &quot;Dogma&quot;... and then to the idea of &quot;Individuals who would like to disassemble the patriarchy&quot;, but that&#039;s a little long.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I see why the term womanist might be preferred for use by some cultures, but I think it can count as a subset of feminism. I agree that it sounds more universal than it is though.</p>
<p>Whether or not feminism needs a new word in order to rebrand itself (away from feminist=hairy-legged lesbians) is another issue that this has made me wonder about. (Should we need to? No. Might it help? Unclear.) Then my brain went to the whole Catholic church Buddy Jesus part of &#8220;Dogma&#8221;&#8230; and then to the idea of &#8220;Individuals who would like to disassemble the patriarchy&#8221;, but that&#8217;s a little long.</p>
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		<title>By: Pilgrim Soul</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/03/04/feminist-food-for-thought-alice-walker/comment-page-1/#comment-3047</link>
		<dc:creator>Pilgrim Soul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 23:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, it&#039;s strange, and yet... I am being simplistic, I&#039;m sure, but I am still struggling to come to terms with the idea that other people&#039;s critiques of prior and current iterations of the women&#039;s movement necessarily mean that female solidarity is impossible.  And therefore, I worry about, say, allowing white women to own the definition of &quot;feminism&quot; or black women to own the definition &quot;womanism.&quot;  I mean, where does that take us?  It&#039;s right back to everyone representing their own interests, I guess, but I don&#039;t want to stay here in my privilege cave, you know?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it&#8217;s strange, and yet&#8230; I am being simplistic, I&#8217;m sure, but I am still struggling to come to terms with the idea that other people&#8217;s critiques of prior and current iterations of the women&#8217;s movement necessarily mean that female solidarity is impossible.  And therefore, I worry about, say, allowing white women to own the definition of &#8220;feminism&#8221; or black women to own the definition &#8220;womanism.&#8221;  I mean, where does that take us?  It&#8217;s right back to everyone representing their own interests, I guess, but I don&#8217;t want to stay here in my privilege cave, you know?</p>
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		<title>By: jdregent</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdregent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 23:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yeah that strikes me as a little strange.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah that strikes me as a little strange.</p>
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		<title>By: Pilgrim Soul</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/03/04/feminist-food-for-thought-alice-walker/comment-page-1/#comment-3045</link>
		<dc:creator>Pilgrim Soul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 23:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, JD, that&#039;s why I assume I see the confused suggestion that it be adopted by white feminists who want to distance themselves from the &quot;movement.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, JD, that&#8217;s why I assume I see the confused suggestion that it be adopted by white feminists who want to distance themselves from the &#8220;movement.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: jdregent</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdregent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 23:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PS, just out of curiosity, why do you think it implies something universal?  because of the root woman?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS, just out of curiosity, why do you think it implies something universal?  because of the root woman?</p>
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