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	<title>Comments on: I Don&#8217;t Have Enough Hands&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: BeckySharper</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/03/17/i-dont-have-enough-hands/comment-page-1/#comment-4001</link>
		<dc:creator>BeckySharper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@HanaMaru: Oh yeah, it&#039;s definitely wrong. I&#039;m not saying the situation&#039;s not wrong, I&#039;m saying that it&#039;s difficult for me to criticize Mukhtar&#039;s choice to marry because her feelings (or mine) about it are necessarily heavily influenced by cultural norms.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@HanaMaru: Oh yeah, it&#8217;s definitely wrong. I&#8217;m not saying the situation&#8217;s not wrong, I&#8217;m saying that it&#8217;s difficult for me to criticize Mukhtar&#8217;s choice to marry because her feelings (or mine) about it are necessarily heavily influenced by cultural norms.</p>
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		<title>By: HanaMaru</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/03/17/i-dont-have-enough-hands/comment-page-1/#comment-3999</link>
		<dc:creator>HanaMaru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really admire Mukhtar Mai  for all that she&#039;s accomplished in the face of so much danger after her gang rape.  This situation makes me very sad for both women involved.  Presumably he still lives with his first wife, who knows she is unwanted, while he can go over and rape his second wife at his pleasure?  Fuck cultural relativism.  Women who live in other cultures know this shit is wrong because it is happening to their own bodies.  

Not all of them look beyond their individual experience to see that the system is rotten; my mother used to think for years that she could be a good enough wife that my father wouldn&#039;t beat her.  My cousin in India, when I was visiting, kept asking if I knew any men she could marry, at a time when she had only recently uncovered her new husband&#039;s plot to sell her to traffickers(!) and had escaped and turned him over to the authorities.  She is educated and middle class and it&#039;s not about money.  Still, there is an active feminist movement, at least in India.  Religion tells them they are inferior, but they don&#039;t all buy into it, just like we don&#039;t here.  It&#039;s okay to say that this is wrong, that things are unequal there and that treating women as the property of men leads to daily, casual human rights violations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really admire Mukhtar Mai  for all that she&#8217;s accomplished in the face of so much danger after her gang rape.  This situation makes me very sad for both women involved.  Presumably he still lives with his first wife, who knows she is unwanted, while he can go over and rape his second wife at his pleasure?  Fuck cultural relativism.  Women who live in other cultures know this shit is wrong because it is happening to their own bodies.  </p>
<p>Not all of them look beyond their individual experience to see that the system is rotten; my mother used to think for years that she could be a good enough wife that my father wouldn&#8217;t beat her.  My cousin in India, when I was visiting, kept asking if I knew any men she could marry, at a time when she had only recently uncovered her new husband&#8217;s plot to sell her to traffickers(!) and had escaped and turned him over to the authorities.  She is educated and middle class and it&#8217;s not about money.  Still, there is an active feminist movement, at least in India.  Religion tells them they are inferior, but they don&#8217;t all buy into it, just like we don&#8217;t here.  It&#8217;s okay to say that this is wrong, that things are unequal there and that treating women as the property of men leads to daily, casual human rights violations.</p>
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		<title>By: Vicariousrising</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/03/17/i-dont-have-enough-hands/comment-page-1/#comment-3986</link>
		<dc:creator>Vicariousrising</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow. What an amazing woman.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. What an amazing woman.</p>
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		<title>By: Spark</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/03/17/i-dont-have-enough-hands/comment-page-1/#comment-3985</link>
		<dc:creator>Spark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[She was coerced into marrying him, and now, presumably, into sleeping with him. That is rape. It sounds like she&#039;s making the best decisions she can in these circumstances, and doing a whole lot of good for the people around her. Don&#039;t worry about how to judge her when it&#039;s so easy to judge him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She was coerced into marrying him, and now, presumably, into sleeping with him. That is rape. It sounds like she&#8217;s making the best decisions she can in these circumstances, and doing a whole lot of good for the people around her. Don&#8217;t worry about how to judge her when it&#8217;s so easy to judge him.</p>
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		<title>By: mydishonestheart</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/03/17/i-dont-have-enough-hands/comment-page-1/#comment-3984</link>
		<dc:creator>mydishonestheart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Despite her marrying a man she doesn&#039;t want, I still find this a triumph. Once again, a man tried to take control of her in a way that should be easy, and she made it difficult; in addition, she took the manipulative situation and flipped it back on him, gaining more rights and freedoms for Ms. Shumaila and quite possibly herself (I know precious little on Pakistani culture, this is just my summary from the article. I definitely agree the interpretation is a black and white issue from our end.) She takes control back for herself and for other women at every angle, and its hard for me to feel anything but awesome about that.

As an American woman I&#039;m sad she didn&#039;t marry a man she loved, but that&#039;s a notion I think I&#039;ll touch less because I know so little of their culture. I get the impression that&#039;s significantly harder to do in an ultra conservative society like that, so I feel as though she got a good deal out of what she was dealt. It seems rare for women to take power back in places a council can order gang rape for something she wasn&#039;t even the list of defendants for.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite her marrying a man she doesn&#8217;t want, I still find this a triumph. Once again, a man tried to take control of her in a way that should be easy, and she made it difficult; in addition, she took the manipulative situation and flipped it back on him, gaining more rights and freedoms for Ms. Shumaila and quite possibly herself (I know precious little on Pakistani culture, this is just my summary from the article. I definitely agree the interpretation is a black and white issue from our end.) She takes control back for herself and for other women at every angle, and its hard for me to feel anything but awesome about that.</p>
<p>As an American woman I&#8217;m sad she didn&#8217;t marry a man she loved, but that&#8217;s a notion I think I&#8217;ll touch less because I know so little of their culture. I get the impression that&#8217;s significantly harder to do in an ultra conservative society like that, so I feel as though she got a good deal out of what she was dealt. It seems rare for women to take power back in places a council can order gang rape for something she wasn&#8217;t even the list of defendants for.</p>
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		<title>By: jdregent</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdregent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well at least she gets to live by herself.  I&#039;m not sure but I think I haz a sad anyway.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well at least she gets to live by herself.  I&#8217;m not sure but I think I haz a sad anyway.</p>
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