Comments on: “New Feminism” Now Available in Stores! (Warning: May Contain Patriarchy)

By: sarah.of.a.lesser.god

sarah.of.a.lesser.god — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:28:29 +0000

@Hill Rat: It sounds like you’re talking about feminist actions, whereas this discussion is more about feminist theory. What Cardinal Martino proposed was a new feminist theory, which is how this discussion has been framed. I wholeheartedly agree that all different kinds of feminist thought (not just Black, but also Arab, queer, and many other groups) must be under the umbrella. But as for the original feminist theory of women’s equality and championing their accomplishments, I am not sure what tweaks you would propose.

By: Hill Rat

Hill Rat — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:57:05 +0000

@sarah.of.a.lesser.god

Mostly I think that feminism needs to cast its net a bit wider to make sure that it includes Black feminist thought. Specifically incorporating the idea that race, class, and gender are (to quote Patricia Hill Collins), “interlocking systems of oppression.”

By: sarah.of.a.lesser.god

sarah.of.a.lesser.god — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:25:36 +0000

@Hill Rat: What tweaks do you propose as far as the theory of feminism goes?

By: Hill Rat

Hill Rat — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:42:15 +0000

@sarah.of.a.lesser.god

A bit of both.

@Tiny Danza

As far as I know there is no singular, universally accepted definition for “feminism,” it’s a word that seems to have almost as many definitions as the people who use it. If you ask Gloria Steinem what feminism means you’ll get a totally different answer than what you would probably be told by bell hooks. I’m only speaking about my own (limited) knowledge of what feminism is.

By: bellacoker

bellacoker — Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:14:36 +0000

Wow! He just swooped in and changed the rules of our game, as if he had the authority to change the rules of our game. Like, Johnny, quit chasing your brother with that stick!!

There was a time when I’m sure that would have worked, like um . . . the 1600′s?, but does the Catholic church really not see that we’re long past church as parent?

By: Laughingrat

Laughingrat — Sat, 28 Mar 2009 04:19:55 +0000

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

When I’m Pope, I think I’ll defrock his sorry, obfuscatin’ ass. Did you see how he kinda swiped some feminist concepts like “dignity” and the idea of women as “human person[s]” to advance the patriarchy? Did you see what he did there?

I’m sure we all saw what he did there.

By: Alison

Alison — Sat, 28 Mar 2009 02:47:07 +0000

jsut had to say, the title of this post is hilarious, and awesome and excellent

By: Tiny Danza

Tiny Danza — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:26:01 +0000

@Hill Rat: And what is this monolithic “feminism” of which you speak?

By: Tiny Danza

Tiny Danza — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:23:07 +0000

I’m no good when it comes to mathematical conundrums but how is it that Yes Feminism appears to equal No Feminism?

By: bluebears

bluebears — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:26:21 +0000

@s-o-a-l-g: teheheheheheh. good point. I’m getting the better business bureau on the line this INSTANT!