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		<title>By: To All The Girls Who&#8217;ve Never Feminist-Blogged, Before - The Pursuit of Harpyness</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/04/21/in-which-i-wonder-who-i-can-count-on-anyway/comment-page-2/#comment-13176</link>
		<dc:creator>To All The Girls Who&#8217;ve Never Feminist-Blogged, Before - The Pursuit of Harpyness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] shan&#8217;t repeat myself on thin privilege, or on why the perspectives of the not-thin should not threaten thin people so much as they seem to.  I get that thin women also have experiences of body image, and I [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] shan&#8217;t repeat myself on thin privilege, or on why the perspectives of the not-thin should not threaten thin people so much as they seem to.  I get that thin women also have experiences of body image, and I [...]</p>
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		<title>By: rengeko</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/04/21/in-which-i-wonder-who-i-can-count-on-anyway/comment-page-2/#comment-6551</link>
		<dc:creator>rengeko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 09:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i was thin as a young person, and have gained a LOT of weight-i can tell you that i am treated VERY differently as a fat person.  though, i do have to say that people often seemed very worried about my health when i was thin-even though i did nothing to cause it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i was thin as a young person, and have gained a LOT of weight-i can tell you that i am treated VERY differently as a fat person.  though, i do have to say that people often seemed very worried about my health when i was thin-even though i did nothing to cause it.</p>
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		<title>By: aspiringexpatriate</title>
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		<dc:creator>aspiringexpatriate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 00:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Clear enough. Besides I skimmed, as I&#039;m still drinking rum. I should stop soon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clear enough. Besides I skimmed, as I&#8217;m still drinking rum. I should stop soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Violet Kakapo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Violet Kakapo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 00:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know I missed the actual conversation, but I just wanted to pop in to add a huge &quot;Thank you&quot; for this discussion. That post on Jezebel was largely a clusterfuck of frustration, and I really appreciate your thoughtful response.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I missed the actual conversation, but I just wanted to pop in to add a huge &#8220;Thank you&#8221; for this discussion. That post on Jezebel was largely a clusterfuck of frustration, and I really appreciate your thoughtful response.</p>
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		<title>By: mysterygirl!</title>
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		<dc:creator>mysterygirl!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 00:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[(I can&#039;t tell if my thought process was clear above, although it was logical in my mind: I don&#039;t think the 300+ comments implied that yogurt was something that definitely needed to be discussed : ) )]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(I can&#8217;t tell if my thought process was clear above, although it was logical in my mind: I don&#8217;t think the 300+ comments implied that yogurt was something that definitely needed to be discussed : ) )</p>
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		<title>By: mysterygirl!</title>
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		<dc:creator>mysterygirl!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 23:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aspiring expat, I guess I disagree that very much of what happened on that board was necessary, or that number of comments reveals importance (e.g. &quot;Do men eat yogurt?&quot; currently ranks immediately below that Kat Dennings post in number of comments).  I think a lot of people got riled up and defensive who wouldn&#039;t have if they had seen the entire quotation-- the post was a little disappointing and ironic to me, coming from a website that prides itself on (and I think often succeeds at) parsing through commentary and understanding entire issues rather than relying on often-misleading soundbytes to form opinions.   

I think that the long thread that PS started there, and the post and comments here, are the most worthwhile things to come from this, so in that I think we agree.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aspiring expat, I guess I disagree that very much of what happened on that board was necessary, or that number of comments reveals importance (e.g. &#8220;Do men eat yogurt?&#8221; currently ranks immediately below that Kat Dennings post in number of comments).  I think a lot of people got riled up and defensive who wouldn&#8217;t have if they had seen the entire quotation&#8211; the post was a little disappointing and ironic to me, coming from a website that prides itself on (and I think often succeeds at) parsing through commentary and understanding entire issues rather than relying on often-misleading soundbytes to form opinions.   </p>
<p>I think that the long thread that PS started there, and the post and comments here, are the most worthwhile things to come from this, so in that I think we agree.</p>
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		<title>By: swedishfishing</title>
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		<dc:creator>swedishfishing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 23:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh boo, I&#039;m late to this as usual. But I agree with you, PS. Comparing the kind of criticism you get as a thin person to what you get as a not-thin person (much less as a fat person) is absurd. They aren&#039;t comparable at all. And I&#039;m thin and not at all offended by her statement. I read Shapely Prose and I consider myself a fat acceptance (ally, I guess?) and I REALLY do not get what all the self-righteous bullshit from the Jez readers was all about. Perhaps they really don&#039;t understand the concept of privilege? Not surprising, I guess, but disappointing. 

AND HEY! I&#039;m 22 as of last week! I CLEARLY never say stupid shit. Clearly. The mellifluous sounds flowing from my mouth are truly gifts to anyone lucky enough to hear them. Never awkwardly worded or offensive at all. No way.

Hee! You&#039;re right though. People my age do tend to say dumb shit. Sorry :/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh boo, I&#8217;m late to this as usual. But I agree with you, PS. Comparing the kind of criticism you get as a thin person to what you get as a not-thin person (much less as a fat person) is absurd. They aren&#8217;t comparable at all. And I&#8217;m thin and not at all offended by her statement. I read Shapely Prose and I consider myself a fat acceptance (ally, I guess?) and I REALLY do not get what all the self-righteous bullshit from the Jez readers was all about. Perhaps they really don&#8217;t understand the concept of privilege? Not surprising, I guess, but disappointing. </p>
<p>AND HEY! I&#8217;m 22 as of last week! I CLEARLY never say stupid shit. Clearly. The mellifluous sounds flowing from my mouth are truly gifts to anyone lucky enough to hear them. Never awkwardly worded or offensive at all. No way.</p>
<p>Hee! You&#8217;re right though. People my age do tend to say dumb shit. Sorry :/</p>
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		<title>By: aspiringexpatriate</title>
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		<dc:creator>aspiringexpatriate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 22:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@mysterygirl!: If the amount of postings on the issue is any sort of &quot;poll,&quot; the editor (I think Dodai) incited an absolutely necessary shitstorm.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mysterygirl!: If the amount of postings on the issue is any sort of &#8220;poll,&#8221; the editor (I think Dodai) incited an absolutely necessary shitstorm.</p>
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		<title>By: aspiringexpatriate</title>
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		<dc:creator>aspiringexpatriate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 22:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In an attempt to lighten the mood in a really bad taste sort of way... (I&#039;m three hours into a bottle of rum and it&#039;s still 91 degrees)

a) She said size zero twits. I like to think that the &#039;twits&#039; was the most important distinction, not the size zero. As in English the most important adjective comes last. (or is that Russian?)
b) I&#039;m overweight and know it. Have been most my life. I&#039;ve finally decided to start &#039;working out&#039; in a very minimal sense to see if something will change. No one should be sidelined from society because of weight, but I&#039;m just as superficial as the next bastard and know it happens all.the.time.
c) I had a third point two minutes ago...Probably something about every being prejudiced in someway, thus everyone being a victim of someone else&#039;s prejudice, and really, arguing about who takes precedence has always wound up casting feminism in a bad light (Anthony vs Douglas take 23045), so while it is definitely something that needs to be said, the rooftops are not a good place for a soapbox. (And no, that didn&#039;t make sense to me either, it just sounded poetically bastard-like.)
d) A black person insulted me once!!!!!111!!ONE]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In an attempt to lighten the mood in a really bad taste sort of way&#8230; (I&#8217;m three hours into a bottle of rum and it&#8217;s still 91 degrees)</p>
<p>a) She said size zero twits. I like to think that the &#8216;twits&#8217; was the most important distinction, not the size zero. As in English the most important adjective comes last. (or is that Russian?)<br />
b) I&#8217;m overweight and know it. Have been most my life. I&#8217;ve finally decided to start &#8216;working out&#8217; in a very minimal sense to see if something will change. No one should be sidelined from society because of weight, but I&#8217;m just as superficial as the next bastard and know it happens all.the.time.<br />
c) I had a third point two minutes ago&#8230;Probably something about every being prejudiced in someway, thus everyone being a victim of someone else&#8217;s prejudice, and really, arguing about who takes precedence has always wound up casting feminism in a bad light (Anthony vs Douglas take 23045), so while it is definitely something that needs to be said, the rooftops are not a good place for a soapbox. (And no, that didn&#8217;t make sense to me either, it just sounded poetically bastard-like.)<br />
d) A black person insulted me once!!!!!111!!ONE</p>
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		<title>By: mysterygirl!</title>
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		<dc:creator>mysterygirl!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 21:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shannon, J.D. Regent posted a longer version of Kat Dennings&#039; quotation above, and someone posted an even longer version of it in the original thread, and here it is.  In context, I think it&#039;s pretty benign:

&quot;Dennings adds that she&#039;s been going through a bit of a real-life confidence crisis lately. &quot;I&#039;m trying desperately not to read my IMDb message board - anything you can throw, they throw,&quot; she says... &quot;all I get is that I&#039;m too fat, my nose is weird, my teeth are bad...&quot; She says these things with a casual, &quot;eh, whaddya gonna do?&quot; attitude. But she admits the insults can hurt. &quot;I never thought about my looks that much because of how I grew up - it was not important. So all of a sudden, I&#039;m hideous, and it sucks.&quot; ... &quot;Hopefully, the tide is going to be turning. Personally, when I see a movie starring the perfect blah girl with the perfect hunk guy, I&#039;m just like &#039;Oh, screw this. I don&#039;t wanna watch this. Who cares what happens to you guys?&#039;&quot; she says, laughing. &quot;I love my career, and I know that looks are a huge part of it, but people are obsessed. Like, &#039;Don&#039;t you have other things to do than not eat and go to the gym, you freak?&#039;&quot; On a role now, with her bravado and wit in full force, she adds: &quot;I mean, ask any size-0 twit if she&#039;s read a book lately.&quot; &quot;

So, I think she&#039;s pretty clearly talking about Hollywood and the people she&#039;s competing with for roles, saying that she&#039;d rather get over that pressure and cultivate other interests besides working out in order to a more fulfilling life.  I don&#039;t think it&#039;s being applied to every size zero person in the world, just people who are focused on their bodies at the expense of all other interests and become &quot;twits&quot; as a result (as others have commented above).  So I guess I&#039;m unsure what&#039;s offensive about that.  I think that, by taking the quotation out of context on the other website, the editor incited an unnecessary shitstorm (not that that was the only problem).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shannon, J.D. Regent posted a longer version of Kat Dennings&#8217; quotation above, and someone posted an even longer version of it in the original thread, and here it is.  In context, I think it&#8217;s pretty benign:</p>
<p>&#8220;Dennings adds that she&#8217;s been going through a bit of a real-life confidence crisis lately. &#8220;I&#8217;m trying desperately not to read my IMDb message board &#8211; anything you can throw, they throw,&#8221; she says&#8230; &#8220;all I get is that I&#8217;m too fat, my nose is weird, my teeth are bad&#8230;&#8221; She says these things with a casual, &#8220;eh, whaddya gonna do?&#8221; attitude. But she admits the insults can hurt. &#8220;I never thought about my looks that much because of how I grew up &#8211; it was not important. So all of a sudden, I&#8217;m hideous, and it sucks.&#8221; &#8230; &#8220;Hopefully, the tide is going to be turning. Personally, when I see a movie starring the perfect blah girl with the perfect hunk guy, I&#8217;m just like &#8216;Oh, screw this. I don&#8217;t wanna watch this. Who cares what happens to you guys?&#8217;&#8221; she says, laughing. &#8220;I love my career, and I know that looks are a huge part of it, but people are obsessed. Like, &#8216;Don&#8217;t you have other things to do than not eat and go to the gym, you freak?&#8217;&#8221; On a role now, with her bravado and wit in full force, she adds: &#8220;I mean, ask any size-0 twit if she&#8217;s read a book lately.&#8221; &#8221;</p>
<p>So, I think she&#8217;s pretty clearly talking about Hollywood and the people she&#8217;s competing with for roles, saying that she&#8217;d rather get over that pressure and cultivate other interests besides working out in order to a more fulfilling life.  I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s being applied to every size zero person in the world, just people who are focused on their bodies at the expense of all other interests and become &#8220;twits&#8221; as a result (as others have commented above).  So I guess I&#8217;m unsure what&#8217;s offensive about that.  I think that, by taking the quotation out of context on the other website, the editor incited an unnecessary shitstorm (not that that was the only problem).</p>
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