Comments on: Newsies!

By: ceejeemcbeegee

ceejeemcbeegee — Sun, 03 May 2009 20:53:36 +0000

I agree with Kelsium… Obama strikes me as the type who’d at least try to understand the opposition. But I’ve only worked for the guy, so what the hell do I know?

By: bellacoker

bellacoker — Sun, 03 May 2009 06:02:33 +0000

Ms. Sharper: Of course! I think the jokes are more sad-funny than ha-ha-funny because there is an important place for religion in people’s lives, and we need more members of clergy who care more about women as individuals and less about our fecundity.

Those pastors/rabbis/imams, etc exist and should be celebrated and their names should be passed around like good hairdressers.

By: BeckySharper

BeckySharper — Sat, 02 May 2009 15:56:43 +0000

I might discuss an abortion with my (awesome feminist female) rabbi, although I suspect I’d do it after the fact. A lot of women–maybe not the ones we all hang out with–have close relationships with their pastors/rabbis/imams, and for many, the clergy takes the role of therapist, for better or for worse.

I also protest the assumption that clergy=misogyny. Sometimes it does, but often it does not. As a religious Reform Jew and niece of a former (female) Methodist minister, I have met a LOT of caring, compassionate pastors/rabbis who absolutely have the best interests of women at heart (and are pro-choice as well). Many of them–particularly in mainline Protestantism and Reform/Conservative Judaism–are women themselves.

By: Av0gadro

Av0gadro — Sat, 02 May 2009 04:17:14 +0000

To be fair, I have known women who have consulted clergy about abortion, but in both cases it was a wanted pregnancy gone wrong, not an unwanted pregnancy. I think they’re very different issues. I can’t imagine talking to my rabbi about my family planning. Or my vagina, bella, but you made me giggle.

By: HistoricUpstart

HistoricUpstart — Sat, 02 May 2009 03:39:25 +0000

AHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! I can die happy now, thank you.

By: bellacoker

bellacoker — Fri, 01 May 2009 23:48:39 +0000

Sorry I’m late, I was letting my rabbi counsel me about my vagina. . . What have I missed?

Bella-

By: PhDork

PhDork — Fri, 01 May 2009 23:47:42 +0000

HistoricUpstart, I got you a present.

Also: Hi, Kelsium! Thanks for coming over to play.

By: HistoricUpstart

HistoricUpstart — Fri, 01 May 2009 22:39:48 +0000

I just can’t get past the fact that this post has nothing to do with the movie Newsies. ARISE AND SEIZE THE DAAAAAAY!!

By: SarahMC

SarahMC — Fri, 01 May 2009 21:13:22 +0000

Hi Kelsium!

By: kelsium

kelsium — Fri, 01 May 2009 20:56:09 +0000

When we live in a world in which a woman’s reproductive capabilities and implicit responsibilities (contraception, fertility, pregnancy) are an inescapable part of her daily life (see aforementioned 43-year-old ass-weasle, etc.), YES a woman’s reproductive freedom IS an issue of a woman’s freedom.
However, if President Obama’s current goal on the choice front is to attempt to “tamp down some of the anger surrounding this issue” I think that acknowledging “families, doctors and clergy” as the other parties that have a place in a decision about abortion was well-placed. I would prefer it to be shouted from the rooftops that it is between a woman and her doctor alone, but you can’t always get what you want.
That being said, fundies are never going to concede that people should make their own choices about ANY topic that they deem “moral” or “having an impact on the community(/won’t someone think of the children?)”… so good luck with that, Mr. President.
Also, hi, Pursuit of Harpyness! This is my first comment here!