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	<title>Comments on: A Response to Joe&#8217;s Public Shaming</title>
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		<title>By: There are ways to advertise coffee without involving bikini bods &#171; The Gender Blender Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/05/17/a-response-to-joes-public-shaming/comment-page-1/#comment-8701</link>
		<dc:creator>There are ways to advertise coffee without involving bikini bods &#171; The Gender Blender Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 00:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] been following Becky Sharper&#8217;s posts (see here, here and here) on The Pursuit of Harpyness about Joe The Art of Coffee (in the Village in New York City) [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] been following Becky Sharper&#8217;s posts (see here, here and here) on The Pursuit of Harpyness about Joe The Art of Coffee (in the Village in New York City) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: HanaMaru</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/05/17/a-response-to-joes-public-shaming/comment-page-1/#comment-8623</link>
		<dc:creator>HanaMaru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 22:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joe(or whomever), I&#039;m sorry you&#039;re so offended that I was offended.  Also, surprised at how you made an [even more giant thing] out of that mountain Becky made out of a molehill.  

Understand?  Me neither.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe(or whomever), I&#8217;m sorry you&#8217;re so offended that I was offended.  Also, surprised at how you made an [even more giant thing] out of that mountain Becky made out of a molehill.  </p>
<p>Understand?  Me neither.</p>
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		<title>By: Complain-o-peeps</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/05/17/a-response-to-joes-public-shaming/comment-page-1/#comment-8608</link>
		<dc:creator>Complain-o-peeps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 20:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, I agree with Cheryl and Holly - totally weak sauce &quot;apology&quot;!  I have no idea what a &quot;Joe&#039;s The Art of Coffee&quot; is, but I&#039;ll be actively avoided them should I ever encounter one.  I&#039;m a home roaster anyway. No body shaming at my coffee pot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I agree with Cheryl and Holly &#8211; totally weak sauce &#8220;apology&#8221;!  I have no idea what a &#8220;Joe&#8217;s The Art of Coffee&#8221; is, but I&#8217;ll be actively avoided them should I ever encounter one.  I&#8217;m a home roaster anyway. No body shaming at my coffee pot.</p>
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		<title>By: BeckySharper</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/05/17/a-response-to-joes-public-shaming/comment-page-1/#comment-8581</link>
		<dc:creator>BeckySharper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 14:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The offending ad is not gone. Stay tuned...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The offending ad is not gone. Stay tuned&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/05/17/a-response-to-joes-public-shaming/comment-page-1/#comment-8577</link>
		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 08:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I definitely agree with Cheryl Trooskin-Zoller here--On all counts.

I&#039;m really sick of hearing the whole &#039;it&#039;s not THAT big of a deal&#039; apology.  If you&#039;re a woman who is offended by something that was &quot;meant to be a joke&quot; you&#039;re making a big deal out of nothing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely agree with Cheryl Trooskin-Zoller here&#8211;On all counts.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m really sick of hearing the whole &#8216;it&#8217;s not THAT big of a deal&#8217; apology.  If you&#8217;re a woman who is offended by something that was &#8220;meant to be a joke&#8221; you&#8217;re making a big deal out of nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Istatalnara</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/05/17/a-response-to-joes-public-shaming/comment-page-1/#comment-8576</link>
		<dc:creator>Istatalnara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 05:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looking forward to see if they take it down or not, please tell us!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking forward to see if they take it down or not, please tell us!</p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl Trooskin-Zoller</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/05/17/a-response-to-joes-public-shaming/comment-page-1/#comment-8573</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheryl Trooskin-Zoller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 01:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, they hit several of the &quot;this is only barely an apology&quot; markers: 

* The &quot;I&#039;m sorry if you were offended&quot; (rather than, sorry they did something offensive)

* &quot;strictly as a joke&quot; (as if saying something offensive, and following it up with &quot;I was just joking!&quot; isn&#039;t the behaviour of twelve-year-old bullies)

* calling the response &quot;virulent&quot; (really?  Two sentences of explanation why this was offensive, with a little bit of profanity (but of course, when it comes to responding to shaming or misogyny, any response is too much -- we&#039;re supposed to be ashamed, not outraged))

* and, as you pointed out, the &quot;mountain out of a molehill&quot; claims of over-reaction. 

But most importantly, if they take the sign down, that&#039;s enough.  The important part is not that they apologise gracefully.  It&#039;s not really, in my eye, that they understand.  It&#039;s that every single act of casual misogyny creates the environment in which that misogyny is considered perfectly normal.  So one fewer sign out there normalizing body-shaming is a win.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, they hit several of the &#8220;this is only barely an apology&#8221; markers: </p>
<p>* The &#8220;I&#8217;m sorry if you were offended&#8221; (rather than, sorry they did something offensive)</p>
<p>* &#8220;strictly as a joke&#8221; (as if saying something offensive, and following it up with &#8220;I was just joking!&#8221; isn&#8217;t the behaviour of twelve-year-old bullies)</p>
<p>* calling the response &#8220;virulent&#8221; (really?  Two sentences of explanation why this was offensive, with a little bit of profanity (but of course, when it comes to responding to shaming or misogyny, any response is too much &#8212; we&#8217;re supposed to be ashamed, not outraged))</p>
<p>* and, as you pointed out, the &#8220;mountain out of a molehill&#8221; claims of over-reaction. </p>
<p>But most importantly, if they take the sign down, that&#8217;s enough.  The important part is not that they apologise gracefully.  It&#8217;s not really, in my eye, that they understand.  It&#8217;s that every single act of casual misogyny creates the environment in which that misogyny is considered perfectly normal.  So one fewer sign out there normalizing body-shaming is a win.</p>
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		<title>By: sarah.of.a.lesser.god</title>
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		<dc:creator>sarah.of.a.lesser.god</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 00:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Skim lattes forever!  But really, not because I want it to be about a bikini body.  Good on you for sending the post to them, and this is not a &quot;molehill&quot; but a continuing pattern of shaming women for not looking like they can pose in &lt;em&gt;Sports Illustrated&lt;/em&gt;&#039;s swimsuit issue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skim lattes forever!  But really, not because I want it to be about a bikini body.  Good on you for sending the post to them, and this is not a &#8220;molehill&#8221; but a continuing pattern of shaming women for not looking like they can pose in <em>Sports Illustrated</em>&#8216;s swimsuit issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/05/17/a-response-to-joes-public-shaming/comment-page-1/#comment-8568</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 18:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah, the good ole &quot;it&#039;s just a joke - it doesn&#039;t harm anyone!&quot; It never goes out of fashion, does it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, the good ole &#8220;it&#8217;s just a joke &#8211; it doesn&#8217;t harm anyone!&#8221; It never goes out of fashion, does it?</p>
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