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		<title>By: SarahMC</title>
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		<dc:creator>SarahMC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 17:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I touched upon in another post, I take meds that aren&#039;t fetus-friendly too - meds that make my life liveable.  And even if they weren&#039;t harmful to fetuses, pregnancy would certainly cause my body tremendous  pain that I am unwilling to deal with if I can help it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I touched upon in another post, I take meds that aren&#8217;t fetus-friendly too &#8211; meds that make my life liveable.  And even if they weren&#8217;t harmful to fetuses, pregnancy would certainly cause my body tremendous  pain that I am unwilling to deal with if I can help it.</p>
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		<title>By: intransigentia</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/06/03/how-to-win-friends-and-influence-people/comment-page-1/#comment-9667</link>
		<dc:creator>intransigentia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 17:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Like Blind Irish Pirate, I also take a medication that is not fetus-friendly.  There is some literature suggesting that if a pregnancy were detected early and I quit the meds and went on high doses of folic acid the kid might be OK.  I, on the other hand, would probably be less than OK, since (1) these meds are the only thing that has ever worked for my bipolar disorder, and (2) sudden discontinuation can cause seizures.  I&#039;d really like an anti-choicer to come explain to me why I should have seizures, 9 months of untreated bipolar, and the kid&#039;s still at risk anyway depending how quickly the meds were stopped and the folic acid started.

Assholes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like Blind Irish Pirate, I also take a medication that is not fetus-friendly.  There is some literature suggesting that if a pregnancy were detected early and I quit the meds and went on high doses of folic acid the kid might be OK.  I, on the other hand, would probably be less than OK, since (1) these meds are the only thing that has ever worked for my bipolar disorder, and (2) sudden discontinuation can cause seizures.  I&#8217;d really like an anti-choicer to come explain to me why I should have seizures, 9 months of untreated bipolar, and the kid&#8217;s still at risk anyway depending how quickly the meds were stopped and the folic acid started.</p>
<p>Assholes.</p>
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		<title>By: Blind Irish Pirate</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/06/03/how-to-win-friends-and-influence-people/comment-page-1/#comment-9632</link>
		<dc:creator>Blind Irish Pirate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 02:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I always get very defensive of people who are anti-choice but parade around that it&#039;s &quot;OK&quot; if the &quot;mother is at risk.&quot; I am on a medication for RA that depletes the folic acid in my body. Should I accidentally become pregnant, the fetus would fail to develop appropriately and would be born with severe deformities, etc. My rheumatologist told me, on starting this medication, that they recommend termination of the pregnancy. When I point this out in conversation with anti-choicers, they stammer around. I&#039;m surprised I haven&#039;t heard the &quot;Well, you should love your child, no matter what!&quot; Not being as eloquent as you ladies, I&#039;d probably just laugh, but really, how fair is it to bring a child into this world, knowing full well that they would be unable to function? Not one bit better than guilting a woman in a high risk pregnancy to finish to term.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always get very defensive of people who are anti-choice but parade around that it&#8217;s &#8220;OK&#8221; if the &#8220;mother is at risk.&#8221; I am on a medication for RA that depletes the folic acid in my body. Should I accidentally become pregnant, the fetus would fail to develop appropriately and would be born with severe deformities, etc. My rheumatologist told me, on starting this medication, that they recommend termination of the pregnancy. When I point this out in conversation with anti-choicers, they stammer around. I&#8217;m surprised I haven&#8217;t heard the &#8220;Well, you should love your child, no matter what!&#8221; Not being as eloquent as you ladies, I&#8217;d probably just laugh, but really, how fair is it to bring a child into this world, knowing full well that they would be unable to function? Not one bit better than guilting a woman in a high risk pregnancy to finish to term.</p>
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		<title>By: Nimue</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/06/03/how-to-win-friends-and-influence-people/comment-page-1/#comment-9550</link>
		<dc:creator>Nimue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 17:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have encountered these folks and their massive dead fetus pictures. They are trained to be &quot;nice&quot; but not in much else. 

I and a few other women systematically dismantled their arguments and corrected their errors. For example, I had to tell them that abortion was criminalized only toward the end of the 19th century (they thought it had always been illegal pre-Roe) and that Sarah Weddington, not Jane Roe, was the lawyer who argued Roe v. Wade. 

Not that it mattered. They still had giants pics, they didn&#039;t change their minds, and I wasted 45 minutes of my life.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have encountered these folks and their massive dead fetus pictures. They are trained to be &#8220;nice&#8221; but not in much else. </p>
<p>I and a few other women systematically dismantled their arguments and corrected their errors. For example, I had to tell them that abortion was criminalized only toward the end of the 19th century (they thought it had always been illegal pre-Roe) and that Sarah Weddington, not Jane Roe, was the lawyer who argued Roe v. Wade. </p>
<p>Not that it mattered. They still had giants pics, they didn&#8217;t change their minds, and I wasted 45 minutes of my life.</p>
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		<title>By: Magnetic Crow</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/06/03/how-to-win-friends-and-influence-people/comment-page-1/#comment-9482</link>
		<dc:creator>Magnetic Crow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 20:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@jdregent Thankee! I figured you didn&#039;t mean it in an abusive way. Sometimes I still find myself slipping and using the word &#039;lame&#039; (damn you 90&#039;s) and wouldn&#039;t mind a gentle reminder to help me reform that habit either.  So I thought I&#039;d mention :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jdregent Thankee! I figured you didn&#8217;t mean it in an abusive way. Sometimes I still find myself slipping and using the word &#8216;lame&#8217; (damn you 90&#8242;s) and wouldn&#8217;t mind a gentle reminder to help me reform that habit either.  So I thought I&#8217;d mention <img src='http://www.harpyness.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kari</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 19:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I dunno.  When I found myself accidentally pregnant, my knee-jerk reaction was &quot;I can&#039;t have an abortion!&quot;  Upon reflection, and self-examination, I realized that this was not what *I* really thought, it was a reflexive impulse informed by anti-choice rhetoric -- both the strident anti-choice garbage peddled by Justice For all and their ilk (which I am very much against, but which nonetheless gets under my skin) and the more insidious stuff like all the movies and stories wherein the courageous mom-to-be chooses to continue with an unwanted pregnancy.

Luckily, through the support of my boyfriend, healthcare providers, and friends in whom I confided, I found the self-awareness to realize that termination was the right choice for me.  Keeping that pregnancy would have been disastrous to me for a lot of reasons, and the fact that I even considered it speaks to me of how deeply I had internalized the anti-choice rhetoric, even though I was and am very pro-choice and usually smart enough to know better.

Long story short, this kind of thing matters, and it does have an effect.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno.  When I found myself accidentally pregnant, my knee-jerk reaction was &#8220;I can&#8217;t have an abortion!&#8221;  Upon reflection, and self-examination, I realized that this was not what *I* really thought, it was a reflexive impulse informed by anti-choice rhetoric &#8212; both the strident anti-choice garbage peddled by Justice For all and their ilk (which I am very much against, but which nonetheless gets under my skin) and the more insidious stuff like all the movies and stories wherein the courageous mom-to-be chooses to continue with an unwanted pregnancy.</p>
<p>Luckily, through the support of my boyfriend, healthcare providers, and friends in whom I confided, I found the self-awareness to realize that termination was the right choice for me.  Keeping that pregnancy would have been disastrous to me for a lot of reasons, and the fact that I even considered it speaks to me of how deeply I had internalized the anti-choice rhetoric, even though I was and am very pro-choice and usually smart enough to know better.</p>
<p>Long story short, this kind of thing matters, and it does have an effect.</p>
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		<title>By: Franziska</title>
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		<dc:creator>Franziska</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 18:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s too bad the RH Reality Check comment sections are filled with anti-choice trolls. It just proves the point that anti-choicers don&#039;t want to debate, they just want to spread their &quot;message&quot; by means of lies, malice, and intolerance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s too bad the RH Reality Check comment sections are filled with anti-choice trolls. It just proves the point that anti-choicers don&#8217;t want to debate, they just want to spread their &#8220;message&#8221; by means of lies, malice, and intolerance.</p>
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		<title>By: Tiny Danza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tiny Danza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 11:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ooooh, scary stuff!  Thanks for bringing attention to this, Sarah.  I&#039;ve felt a lot of pain for/ solidarity with your country in the past week.  May good triumph over what is so clearly evil.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooooh, scary stuff!  Thanks for bringing attention to this, Sarah.  I&#8217;ve felt a lot of pain for/ solidarity with your country in the past week.  May good triumph over what is so clearly evil.</p>
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		<title>By: mischiefmanager</title>
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		<dc:creator>mischiefmanager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 01:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In my almost 20 years of clinic escorting, I&#039;ve also seen exactly one patient turn away.  But it wasn&#039;t because of rhetoric, it was because of sheer terror at the bloody signs and waves of hostility and anger emanating from those lovers of life.  We all figured she rescheduled her appointment for a weekday.

I don&#039;t worry about patients being influenced by the nutjobs, although I do worry about them being upset and traumatized by them.  But in our state, patients have to get state-mandated &quot;counseling&quot; (designed by antis) before they can come in for their abortions, so they have already thought quite a lot about their decision.  

It&#039;s the poor frightened women and girls who fall into the hands of &quot;crisis pregnancy clincs&quot; or who are subjected to brainwashing attempts by their anti-choice &quot;friends&quot;.  (Dang, sorry about all the quotation marks.)  They will tell any lie, guilt trip these women up to their eyebrows, show them fake pictures and stories about how they regret their abortion blah blah, and we&#039;ll give you whatever you want blah blah and really, going through the pregnancy so you can give the baby to someone like them is just like not being pregnant at all! Those places are dangerous.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my almost 20 years of clinic escorting, I&#8217;ve also seen exactly one patient turn away.  But it wasn&#8217;t because of rhetoric, it was because of sheer terror at the bloody signs and waves of hostility and anger emanating from those lovers of life.  We all figured she rescheduled her appointment for a weekday.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t worry about patients being influenced by the nutjobs, although I do worry about them being upset and traumatized by them.  But in our state, patients have to get state-mandated &#8220;counseling&#8221; (designed by antis) before they can come in for their abortions, so they have already thought quite a lot about their decision.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s the poor frightened women and girls who fall into the hands of &#8220;crisis pregnancy clincs&#8221; or who are subjected to brainwashing attempts by their anti-choice &#8220;friends&#8221;.  (Dang, sorry about all the quotation marks.)  They will tell any lie, guilt trip these women up to their eyebrows, show them fake pictures and stories about how they regret their abortion blah blah, and we&#8217;ll give you whatever you want blah blah and really, going through the pregnancy so you can give the baby to someone like them is just like not being pregnant at all! Those places are dangerous.</p>
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		<title>By: SkipToMyLou</title>
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		<dc:creator>SkipToMyLou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 23:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But it worked in &#039;Juno&#039;!

Seriously though, I can see how someone young, unscientific and already pregnant could be convinced that their fetus is actually a life worth preserving. I heard a radio interview on NPR with a young woman in Queens I think, who was doing and excellent job of trying to keep her chit together while parenting, as a teen, a young child. She said that she was convinced to continue with her pregnancy becuase anti-choicers told her that his might he her only shot at motherhood. 

It was unclear whether the implication was that the termination would fuck up her fertility, or whether the implication was that getting pregnant is so perilous and precious that one should treat every conception as though it might be their last and only chance. 

Anyone else catch that interview?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But it worked in &#8216;Juno&#8217;!</p>
<p>Seriously though, I can see how someone young, unscientific and already pregnant could be convinced that their fetus is actually a life worth preserving. I heard a radio interview on NPR with a young woman in Queens I think, who was doing and excellent job of trying to keep her chit together while parenting, as a teen, a young child. She said that she was convinced to continue with her pregnancy becuase anti-choicers told her that his might he her only shot at motherhood. </p>
<p>It was unclear whether the implication was that the termination would fuck up her fertility, or whether the implication was that getting pregnant is so perilous and precious that one should treat every conception as though it might be their last and only chance. </p>
<p>Anyone else catch that interview?</p>
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