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		<title>By: sarah.of.a.lesser.god</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/06/05/an-update-on-those-little-things/comment-page-1/#comment-9609</link>
		<dc:creator>sarah.of.a.lesser.god</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 15:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Cimorene: That is a great story!  Yeah, I feel like there is just this assumption that if a man has those rights that they would surely extend to a woman!  It&#039;s an assumption that privilege automatically extends beyond a privileged group, and it is so infuriating when it happens in academia, when the person who is supposed to be teaching you needs their own dose of enlightenment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Cimorene: That is a great story!  Yeah, I feel like there is just this assumption that if a man has those rights that they would surely extend to a woman!  It&#8217;s an assumption that privilege automatically extends beyond a privileged group, and it is so infuriating when it happens in academia, when the person who is supposed to be teaching you needs their own dose of enlightenment.</p>
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		<title>By: Cimorene</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/06/05/an-update-on-those-little-things/comment-page-1/#comment-9604</link>
		<dc:creator>Cimorene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 06:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Congratulations!  It&#039;s really interesting to do feminism in front of, or to, or with, much older liberal men. I worked in a high school, and my boss was in his 70s and a really great English teacher who couldn&#039;t use a computer. He was also basically an anarchist, in a crazy liberal way. Like, he gives away all his money to liberal politicians and walks EVERYwhere because he&#039;s concerned about the environment, and hates George Bush. But he basically knows nothing about feminism.

So we were reading Taming of the Shrew once, and I (obvi) was harping on the feminist critiques of the play. He frequently dismissed my opinions (respectfully), and we frequently disagreed on the interpretations, which btw totally blew the sophomores&#039; minds (disagreeing! and not hating each other? crazy!) The one day I busted out the old Battered Person Syndrome as an explanation for Katherine&#039;s behavior, and he was basically like &quot;WHOA THIS IS CRAZY EVERYBODY PAY ATTENTION TO MS. CIMORENE BECAUSE I NEVER THOUGHT OF THIS BEFORE!!!&quot; In all caps, too!  

Anyway, it was cool to see him like, switch into understanding.  He&#039;s very well meaning, but also old and not used to thinking about gender issues the way my generation does--or, thinking about them at all. Which is not an excuse (nor is being old) but it is an explanation. And whenever I&#039;d be like, &quot;What if this anonymous early ballad was written--by a WOMAN!!!&quot; he&#039;d totally get on board.  I just needed to be there to bring it up.  

Anyway, I&#039;m so happy your prof responded well.  It bodes really well for the class. But if you&#039;re reading Antigone, how could he not have looked into the Ladies in Athens?  It seems sort of...central.  But Men and their Establishment do have a way of de-centralizing women, don&#039;t they.  Sigh.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations!  It&#8217;s really interesting to do feminism in front of, or to, or with, much older liberal men. I worked in a high school, and my boss was in his 70s and a really great English teacher who couldn&#8217;t use a computer. He was also basically an anarchist, in a crazy liberal way. Like, he gives away all his money to liberal politicians and walks EVERYwhere because he&#8217;s concerned about the environment, and hates George Bush. But he basically knows nothing about feminism.</p>
<p>So we were reading Taming of the Shrew once, and I (obvi) was harping on the feminist critiques of the play. He frequently dismissed my opinions (respectfully), and we frequently disagreed on the interpretations, which btw totally blew the sophomores&#8217; minds (disagreeing! and not hating each other? crazy!) The one day I busted out the old Battered Person Syndrome as an explanation for Katherine&#8217;s behavior, and he was basically like &#8220;WHOA THIS IS CRAZY EVERYBODY PAY ATTENTION TO MS. CIMORENE BECAUSE I NEVER THOUGHT OF THIS BEFORE!!!&#8221; In all caps, too!  </p>
<p>Anyway, it was cool to see him like, switch into understanding.  He&#8217;s very well meaning, but also old and not used to thinking about gender issues the way my generation does&#8211;or, thinking about them at all. Which is not an excuse (nor is being old) but it is an explanation. And whenever I&#8217;d be like, &#8220;What if this anonymous early ballad was written&#8211;by a WOMAN!!!&#8221; he&#8217;d totally get on board.  I just needed to be there to bring it up.  </p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;m so happy your prof responded well.  It bodes really well for the class. But if you&#8217;re reading Antigone, how could he not have looked into the Ladies in Athens?  It seems sort of&#8230;central.  But Men and their Establishment do have a way of de-centralizing women, don&#8217;t they.  Sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: SarahMC</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/06/05/an-update-on-those-little-things/comment-page-1/#comment-9595</link>
		<dc:creator>SarahMC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 00:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m proud of you too!  It can be really scary to go against the grain in a situation like that (something I never did in that class I&#039;ve written about).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m proud of you too!  It can be really scary to go against the grain in a situation like that (something I never did in that class I&#8217;ve written about).</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/06/05/an-update-on-those-little-things/comment-page-1/#comment-9593</link>
		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 23:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Very interesting&quot; is code for, &quot;Oh, shit, I guess I&#039;m going to have to watch what I say from now on.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Very interesting&#8221; is code for, &#8220;Oh, shit, I guess I&#8217;m going to have to watch what I say from now on.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Hana Maru</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/06/05/an-update-on-those-little-things/comment-page-1/#comment-9583</link>
		<dc:creator>Hana Maru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 20:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So proud of you for speaking up, sarah!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So proud of you for speaking up, sarah!</p>
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		<title>By: Kivrin</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/06/05/an-update-on-those-little-things/comment-page-1/#comment-9574</link>
		<dc:creator>Kivrin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 19:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yay!  Go Sarah.  I&#039;m proud of you.  :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yay!  Go Sarah.  I&#8217;m proud of you.  <img src='http://www.harpyness.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: BeckySharper</title>
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		<dc:creator>BeckySharper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 19:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m impressed that he was so upfront in admitting he was wrong. Good for him.  And good for you for speaking up!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m impressed that he was so upfront in admitting he was wrong. Good for him.  And good for you for speaking up!</p>
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		<title>By: vertigo29</title>
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		<dc:creator>vertigo29</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 19:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[kuddos for speaking up... that is how change starts. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kuddos for speaking up&#8230; that is how change starts. <img src='http://www.harpyness.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Endora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Endora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 19:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, well if he&#039;s that old it does make sense.  I was imagining a middle-aged guy and thought he must really be detached from reality in all sorts of ways.

On another note, it&#039;s shocking how many people still see feminism as a kind of personal quirk.  I like to think that every time one of us says we&#039;re feminist, it is normalizing the idea further, though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, well if he&#8217;s that old it does make sense.  I was imagining a middle-aged guy and thought he must really be detached from reality in all sorts of ways.</p>
<p>On another note, it&#8217;s shocking how many people still see feminism as a kind of personal quirk.  I like to think that every time one of us says we&#8217;re feminist, it is normalizing the idea further, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 19:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m glad you spoke up, and I&#039;m glad was receptive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad you spoke up, and I&#8217;m glad was receptive.</p>
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