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		<title>By: BeckySharper</title>
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		<dc:creator>BeckySharper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 00:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@collegebookworm: Refuah shleimah to your dad! (and anyone else&#039;s dad who needs some good news from the doctor)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@collegebookworm: Refuah shleimah to your dad! (and anyone else&#8217;s dad who needs some good news from the doctor)</p>
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		<title>By: CollegeBookworm</title>
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		<dc:creator>CollegeBookworm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 23:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love my dad. Like, so much- and I worry about him a lot these days, because he has a tumor that has been biopsied with no conclusive results. It&#039;s like my dad is a patient on House, except that they can&#039;t run all the tests in the twenty minute section of the show between introducing the patient and solving the illness.

But a feminist? No. PHDork&#039;s description works for my dad too: a my daughter can do whatever she wants-ist. Like, my daughter can read Torah and lead services beautifully- even though he goes to an Orthodox synagogue that would never allow me to do so. My feminism is a little too much for him these days, and we get into arguments about my liberal feminist politics every time I&#039;m home.

But at the same time, he&#039;s always supported me, and while the gender roles are hugely exaggerated these days now that I&#039;m not living at home, I never really felt that my brother and I were treated too differently. Dad&#039;s the reason I love baseball- sofalg, I think we&#039;ve bonded over dads and baseball before. My favorite story is always that when he had a business trip to Detroit in 2001, and his business associate got tickets to a game at Tiger Stadium, during the last season at the old Tiger Stadium, my dad didn&#039;t bring his seven year old son who was playing baseball already. He brought his nine year old daughter instead, and I kept score at the game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love my dad. Like, so much- and I worry about him a lot these days, because he has a tumor that has been biopsied with no conclusive results. It&#8217;s like my dad is a patient on House, except that they can&#8217;t run all the tests in the twenty minute section of the show between introducing the patient and solving the illness.</p>
<p>But a feminist? No. PHDork&#8217;s description works for my dad too: a my daughter can do whatever she wants-ist. Like, my daughter can read Torah and lead services beautifully- even though he goes to an Orthodox synagogue that would never allow me to do so. My feminism is a little too much for him these days, and we get into arguments about my liberal feminist politics every time I&#8217;m home.</p>
<p>But at the same time, he&#8217;s always supported me, and while the gender roles are hugely exaggerated these days now that I&#8217;m not living at home, I never really felt that my brother and I were treated too differently. Dad&#8217;s the reason I love baseball- sofalg, I think we&#8217;ve bonded over dads and baseball before. My favorite story is always that when he had a business trip to Detroit in 2001, and his business associate got tickets to a game at Tiger Stadium, during the last season at the old Tiger Stadium, my dad didn&#8217;t bring his seven year old son who was playing baseball already. He brought his nine year old daughter instead, and I kept score at the game.</p>
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		<title>By: Blondegrlz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blondegrlz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 22:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SarahMC, my dad and your dad could be twins. I couldn&#039;t describe him any better than you just did. 

My dad is the best, hardest working guy I know. At this very moment he&#039;s standing on a ladder in front of my house re-building and screening our porch - just like he has been for the last 5 days. This is his summer vacation. And although he probably doesn&#039;t recognize his actions as dismissing gender norms, he expects me to be out there nailing and sawing and power-tooling right along side.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SarahMC, my dad and your dad could be twins. I couldn&#8217;t describe him any better than you just did. </p>
<p>My dad is the best, hardest working guy I know. At this very moment he&#8217;s standing on a ladder in front of my house re-building and screening our porch &#8211; just like he has been for the last 5 days. This is his summer vacation. And although he probably doesn&#8217;t recognize his actions as dismissing gender norms, he expects me to be out there nailing and sawing and power-tooling right along side.</p>
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		<title>By: Froufrou</title>
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		<dc:creator>Froufrou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 22:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m pretty sure my dad doesn&#039;t identify as a feminist, but he&#039;s never let anything stand in my way. And at twenty, i&#039;m still his little girl, although he&#039;s long treated me as being capable of making my own decisions.
At home I&#039;d say we have some pretty traditional gender roles going on, since my mother works part-time and does the cooking, a role I definitely refused when I was a teenager; now I actually have been cooking for myself for three years, it&#039;s become more of a pleasure, but I&#039;ve always railed against the indoors/outdoors sharing that goes on with my parents as pertains to house stuff. To be perfectly fair, my parents live in the French countryside with fields,a couple horses,etc, so there is a lot of outdoor work to be done, on top of working fulltime, so I can&#039;t hold this against him much.
My brother and I both have always had to do the same chores, but since I&#039;m a neat-freak and my brother is a slob, I&#039;ve always ended up doing a lot more, especially now I don&#039;t feel as obligated to. Part of this is probably social conditioning, since girls always do more at home from what I&#039;ve seen, but I know it&#039;s never been a conscious push on my parent&#039;s part to make me do more than my brother.
I&#039;ve always known that my father highly respects my mother&#039;s intelligence, often saying that she&#039;s better than him, and he has the same attitude with me; I&#039;ve never felt that he thought that women were lesser-than, and my brother wouldn&#039;t dream of thinking that way. He&#039;s always pushed me to do what I wanted, was very excited when I chose to study chinese, and is very proud that I&#039;m moving to Taiwan in august although it means I&#039;ll be on the other side of the planet.
We had a very bad relationship all throughout my teen years, and some of the same dynamic is playing out with my brother now, although much less so since my brother is the quiet one; we know we have very similar dispositions, which probably helped me a lot in life; after all, how could I think women were that different from men when I saw my own character traits in my dad all the time?It might not be very logical, but that&#039;s how I saw it then.
As for boyfriends and sex, he&#039;s teased me about them for years and years, he&#039;s made the jokes about shotguns but we don&#039;t have any guns in the house, and I know he sees them as stupid jokes. The only thing he&#039;s ever told me is to be safe and use condoms :) he&#039;s always trusted my judgment when it comes to the men I go out with and the boys I dated before, and he&#039;d laugh in the face of any guy who asked him for permission to marry me(which would actually be hilarious).
Basically he&#039;s always trusted me, whether it might be about school, alcohol, drugs, sex, whatever, even when I was a teen brat who got into screaming matches with him every night.
In any case, although he might not be feminist, and I&#039;ve never seen him cry, I&#039;ve never seen him treat a woman disrespectfully, and I think that goes a long way.
(sorry, this is really long)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure my dad doesn&#8217;t identify as a feminist, but he&#8217;s never let anything stand in my way. And at twenty, i&#8217;m still his little girl, although he&#8217;s long treated me as being capable of making my own decisions.<br />
At home I&#8217;d say we have some pretty traditional gender roles going on, since my mother works part-time and does the cooking, a role I definitely refused when I was a teenager; now I actually have been cooking for myself for three years, it&#8217;s become more of a pleasure, but I&#8217;ve always railed against the indoors/outdoors sharing that goes on with my parents as pertains to house stuff. To be perfectly fair, my parents live in the French countryside with fields,a couple horses,etc, so there is a lot of outdoor work to be done, on top of working fulltime, so I can&#8217;t hold this against him much.<br />
My brother and I both have always had to do the same chores, but since I&#8217;m a neat-freak and my brother is a slob, I&#8217;ve always ended up doing a lot more, especially now I don&#8217;t feel as obligated to. Part of this is probably social conditioning, since girls always do more at home from what I&#8217;ve seen, but I know it&#8217;s never been a conscious push on my parent&#8217;s part to make me do more than my brother.<br />
I&#8217;ve always known that my father highly respects my mother&#8217;s intelligence, often saying that she&#8217;s better than him, and he has the same attitude with me; I&#8217;ve never felt that he thought that women were lesser-than, and my brother wouldn&#8217;t dream of thinking that way. He&#8217;s always pushed me to do what I wanted, was very excited when I chose to study chinese, and is very proud that I&#8217;m moving to Taiwan in august although it means I&#8217;ll be on the other side of the planet.<br />
We had a very bad relationship all throughout my teen years, and some of the same dynamic is playing out with my brother now, although much less so since my brother is the quiet one; we know we have very similar dispositions, which probably helped me a lot in life; after all, how could I think women were that different from men when I saw my own character traits in my dad all the time?It might not be very logical, but that&#8217;s how I saw it then.<br />
As for boyfriends and sex, he&#8217;s teased me about them for years and years, he&#8217;s made the jokes about shotguns but we don&#8217;t have any guns in the house, and I know he sees them as stupid jokes. The only thing he&#8217;s ever told me is to be safe and use condoms <img src='http://www.harpyness.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  he&#8217;s always trusted my judgment when it comes to the men I go out with and the boys I dated before, and he&#8217;d laugh in the face of any guy who asked him for permission to marry me(which would actually be hilarious).<br />
Basically he&#8217;s always trusted me, whether it might be about school, alcohol, drugs, sex, whatever, even when I was a teen brat who got into screaming matches with him every night.<br />
In any case, although he might not be feminist, and I&#8217;ve never seen him cry, I&#8217;ve never seen him treat a woman disrespectfully, and I think that goes a long way.<br />
(sorry, this is really long)</p>
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		<title>By: have.at.it</title>
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		<dc:creator>have.at.it</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My father is a feminist. I love him dearly. He is quieter and gentler than my mother, with whom I am also very close. When I was a little girl my dad was the primary breadwinner and my mom the SAHM, but their roles reversed later on and she has outearned him for over twenty years now. 
He told me all the time when I was younger that I was smart enough to do anything I wanted. As a chemist, he answered all the questions I had as a nerdy little girl -- Why do water molecules stick together? What does blood type mean? When I wanted to see if you could actually fry an egg on the sidewalk, he gave me tin foil and a carton of eggs and a spatula and let me go at it (turns out that in the South Florida summer, yes you can fry an egg on the sidewalk). 
When I was a teenager and my very Catholic mom discovered I was having sex and freaked the fuck out and wouldn&#039;t speak to me for days, my dad is the one who took me for a car ride, told me he still loved me and respected me, and that he was glad I was being safe and using protection and that I wasn&#039;t doing anything wrong. When I got my heartbroken twice in the past seven years and was in the depths of despair, it was my father&#039;s patient voice and understanding that soothed me. When I have a medical worry, my dad is there. He believes in me one hundred percent. And he has always shown nothing but respect and pride in my mother and her intellect and accomplishments. I am so lucky to have him for a father.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My father is a feminist. I love him dearly. He is quieter and gentler than my mother, with whom I am also very close. When I was a little girl my dad was the primary breadwinner and my mom the SAHM, but their roles reversed later on and she has outearned him for over twenty years now.<br />
He told me all the time when I was younger that I was smart enough to do anything I wanted. As a chemist, he answered all the questions I had as a nerdy little girl &#8212; Why do water molecules stick together? What does blood type mean? When I wanted to see if you could actually fry an egg on the sidewalk, he gave me tin foil and a carton of eggs and a spatula and let me go at it (turns out that in the South Florida summer, yes you can fry an egg on the sidewalk).<br />
When I was a teenager and my very Catholic mom discovered I was having sex and freaked the fuck out and wouldn&#8217;t speak to me for days, my dad is the one who took me for a car ride, told me he still loved me and respected me, and that he was glad I was being safe and using protection and that I wasn&#8217;t doing anything wrong. When I got my heartbroken twice in the past seven years and was in the depths of despair, it was my father&#8217;s patient voice and understanding that soothed me. When I have a medical worry, my dad is there. He believes in me one hundred percent. And he has always shown nothing but respect and pride in my mother and her intellect and accomplishments. I am so lucky to have him for a father.</p>
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		<title>By: Penny_Esq</title>
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		<dc:creator>Penny_Esq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Although my dad is a computer programmer and my mom an educator (i.e., they&#039;re in professions that are traditional for their respective genders), my dad was the one who drove the carpool and took me to dance or soccer while my mom worked longer hours and advanced farther in her career. She always made more money than he did, she has a master&#039;s and an administrative credential and now teaches college classes, while he&#039;s got a BS and never had a management role at any of the places he worked. My mom is currently the Director of Secondary Ed in her school district; my dad retired in the middle of the pack. My mom knows more about cars than my dad does, and my dad makes better comfort food. (Which is not to say they don&#039;t have some traditional roles they adhere to; my mom is DEFINITELY more concerned with keeping the house, dressing well, and entertaining.)

I have always really appreciated this dynamic in my family and have NO patience with dudes who spout nonsense about traditional women&#039;s roles. I think it instilled in me a deep understanding that I can do whatever I want, and that there are guys out there who aren&#039;t insecure about women who make more money or climb higher on the ladder than they do. I don&#039;t really know yet whether I want to become a high-powered partner, but I do know I won&#039;t tolerate men who would refuse to support that goal because I&#039;m a woman.

@spicyplumchatni: Thank you for sharing that. I think we &quot;Westerners&quot; have a tendency to reduce many Eastern cultures to unflattering and narrow stereotypes. Thanks for providing a legitimate perspective not twisted by our inaccurate and unquestioned beliefs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although my dad is a computer programmer and my mom an educator (i.e., they&#8217;re in professions that are traditional for their respective genders), my dad was the one who drove the carpool and took me to dance or soccer while my mom worked longer hours and advanced farther in her career. She always made more money than he did, she has a master&#8217;s and an administrative credential and now teaches college classes, while he&#8217;s got a BS and never had a management role at any of the places he worked. My mom is currently the Director of Secondary Ed in her school district; my dad retired in the middle of the pack. My mom knows more about cars than my dad does, and my dad makes better comfort food. (Which is not to say they don&#8217;t have some traditional roles they adhere to; my mom is DEFINITELY more concerned with keeping the house, dressing well, and entertaining.)</p>
<p>I have always really appreciated this dynamic in my family and have NO patience with dudes who spout nonsense about traditional women&#8217;s roles. I think it instilled in me a deep understanding that I can do whatever I want, and that there are guys out there who aren&#8217;t insecure about women who make more money or climb higher on the ladder than they do. I don&#8217;t really know yet whether I want to become a high-powered partner, but I do know I won&#8217;t tolerate men who would refuse to support that goal because I&#8217;m a woman.</p>
<p>@spicyplumchatni: Thank you for sharing that. I think we &#8220;Westerners&#8221; have a tendency to reduce many Eastern cultures to unflattering and narrow stereotypes. Thanks for providing a legitimate perspective not twisted by our inaccurate and unquestioned beliefs.</p>
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		<title>By: anni</title>
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		<dc:creator>anni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SarahMC, I really relate to your experience of having a conservative dad who is incredibly smart, loving, and dedicated to his family and friends.. and the republican party.  He is definitely a feminist though, and raised me to be tough and self reliant.  Its interesting, I&#039;m dating a girl but she&#039;s a lot like my dad - she gets stuff done and doesn&#039;t suffer idiots, whereas my mom is more nurturing and so am I.  One thing I&#039;ve noticed is he&#039;s gotten better with age - mellowed out, is more silly and affectionate, strives to be more understanding.  I have 2 awesome older bros and I give my dad (and mom) a lot of credit for how the 3 of us are as adults.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SarahMC, I really relate to your experience of having a conservative dad who is incredibly smart, loving, and dedicated to his family and friends.. and the republican party.  He is definitely a feminist though, and raised me to be tough and self reliant.  Its interesting, I&#8217;m dating a girl but she&#8217;s a lot like my dad &#8211; she gets stuff done and doesn&#8217;t suffer idiots, whereas my mom is more nurturing and so am I.  One thing I&#8217;ve noticed is he&#8217;s gotten better with age &#8211; mellowed out, is more silly and affectionate, strives to be more understanding.  I have 2 awesome older bros and I give my dad (and mom) a lot of credit for how the 3 of us are as adults.</p>
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		<title>By: spicyplumchatni</title>
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		<dc:creator>spicyplumchatni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think of my father as a quiet revolutionary. In his own way, he subverted the patriarchal culture so entrenched in India. I am pretty sure he doesn&#039;t know what feminism is, but I am one because of him. 

Dad was born and brought up in a part of the world where conservative is normal, gender roles are deeply embedded, misogyny is rampant, child abuse in the name of culture is the norm. This is part and parcel of belonging to my extended family. My father went against his conservative Hindu family and married my mother who was older than him, was a Catholic Christian and from a state so far away that English was the only language they had in common the first five years of their marriage. They got kicked out their families for a short while for daring to do so. 
My earliest memories of my father cooking all meals (my mom didn&#039;t know how to cook) and sewing cute dresses (okay, he added a lot of frills and lace) for me. When my cousins decked up in sarees during festivals, he bought me Jeans and T-shirts to wear. (Yes, I used to hate it at the time, whereas he didn&#039;t think there was any need for his ten year old to dress up as a grown up). 
He was mostly absent during my teenage years working far away visiting only once a year when he could get time off. As a result, he was always the good guy and mom was perpetually the bad guy. I think he benefitted from that a lot. We reconnected when I was 21 and in the US of A. I was just beginning my feminist education, so of course, our relationship was contentious initially. We had major fights about philosophies. He was very opposed to ideas of pre-marital sex and relationships other than marriage. (In all fairness, his standards applied to men as well, but he felt that women would be disadvantaged in society more than men as a result of such actions). 
Now, he identifies as a liberal person. He defends same-sex marriages, sometimes even to Indian super orthodox Christian gathering of my mom&#039;s relatives. Unlike my mother who chooses to ignore it, my father recognized my brother&#039;s struggle with his sexuality. And, unlike mom, he doesn&#039;t nag me about being unmarried. 
My father could just stick to what is easier &amp; familiar, old fashioned ideas (like my mom and most other Indian parents I know) but he chose to face reality and evolve with the changing landscape. That takes tremendous courage. And that was my biggest lesson- to have the courage to challenge everything.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think of my father as a quiet revolutionary. In his own way, he subverted the patriarchal culture so entrenched in India. I am pretty sure he doesn&#8217;t know what feminism is, but I am one because of him. </p>
<p>Dad was born and brought up in a part of the world where conservative is normal, gender roles are deeply embedded, misogyny is rampant, child abuse in the name of culture is the norm. This is part and parcel of belonging to my extended family. My father went against his conservative Hindu family and married my mother who was older than him, was a Catholic Christian and from a state so far away that English was the only language they had in common the first five years of their marriage. They got kicked out their families for a short while for daring to do so.<br />
My earliest memories of my father cooking all meals (my mom didn&#8217;t know how to cook) and sewing cute dresses (okay, he added a lot of frills and lace) for me. When my cousins decked up in sarees during festivals, he bought me Jeans and T-shirts to wear. (Yes, I used to hate it at the time, whereas he didn&#8217;t think there was any need for his ten year old to dress up as a grown up).<br />
He was mostly absent during my teenage years working far away visiting only once a year when he could get time off. As a result, he was always the good guy and mom was perpetually the bad guy. I think he benefitted from that a lot. We reconnected when I was 21 and in the US of A. I was just beginning my feminist education, so of course, our relationship was contentious initially. We had major fights about philosophies. He was very opposed to ideas of pre-marital sex and relationships other than marriage. (In all fairness, his standards applied to men as well, but he felt that women would be disadvantaged in society more than men as a result of such actions).<br />
Now, he identifies as a liberal person. He defends same-sex marriages, sometimes even to Indian super orthodox Christian gathering of my mom&#8217;s relatives. Unlike my mother who chooses to ignore it, my father recognized my brother&#8217;s struggle with his sexuality. And, unlike mom, he doesn&#8217;t nag me about being unmarried.<br />
My father could just stick to what is easier &amp; familiar, old fashioned ideas (like my mom and most other Indian parents I know) but he chose to face reality and evolve with the changing landscape. That takes tremendous courage. And that was my biggest lesson- to have the courage to challenge everything.</p>
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		<title>By: ceejeemcbeegee</title>
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		<dc:creator>ceejeemcbeegee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My dad... a feminist?  Ha!  You mean the guy who couldn&#039;t wrap his brain around the idea female surgeon installing his pacemaker?  

My dad is NOT a feminist.  But he did raise me to be a feminist.  I think that stems from his belief that men of his generation can&#039;t be feminist because that would make them feminine.  But feminism is OK for the younger generations.  

My dad taught me to be independent of any man.  Get married, yes.  But don&#039;t wait on a husband to buy a house.  Marry a man who can take good care of you, but don&#039;t depend on his money.  

Again, I bring up &lt;i&gt;The Cosby Show&lt;/i&gt;:  if you want to understand exactly how I was raised, there you have it.  Even tho&#039; my dad was blue-collar like James from &lt;i&gt;Good Times&lt;/i&gt;, he married a strong woman like Claire and helped raise some pretty fiercely independent, educated, vocal feminist daughters.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My dad&#8230; a feminist?  Ha!  You mean the guy who couldn&#8217;t wrap his brain around the idea female surgeon installing his pacemaker?  </p>
<p>My dad is NOT a feminist.  But he did raise me to be a feminist.  I think that stems from his belief that men of his generation can&#8217;t be feminist because that would make them feminine.  But feminism is OK for the younger generations.  </p>
<p>My dad taught me to be independent of any man.  Get married, yes.  But don&#8217;t wait on a husband to buy a house.  Marry a man who can take good care of you, but don&#8217;t depend on his money.  </p>
<p>Again, I bring up <i>The Cosby Show</i>:  if you want to understand exactly how I was raised, there you have it.  Even tho&#8217; my dad was blue-collar like James from <i>Good Times</i>, he married a strong woman like Claire and helped raise some pretty fiercely independent, educated, vocal feminist daughters.</p>
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		<title>By: KateKari</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/06/19/harpy-seminar-daddys-girls-uh-women/comment-page-1/#comment-10373</link>
		<dc:creator>KateKari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 15:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just wanted to chime in with a shout-out to my dad, who is awesome.  

Just like SarahMC and PhDork, my dad would probably never overtly claim to be feminist, although he kind of is, in his own quiet way.  My mom&#039;s pretty outspoken and chatty (traits I inherited, natch) and would definitely identify as a feminist.  My dad&#039;s much more taciturn, but everything he does and says (when he bothers to say anything, it&#039;s always either true or important or both) reinforces the feminist leanings my mom expresses overtly.  (He himself was raised by my awesome grandfather and kickass grandmother, so there you go.)

If anything, he taught me that it&#039;s possible to be a feminist without being visibly identifiable as such; he also normalized feminism for me by not drawing attention to it.  He raised me with the utopian belief that his quiet, effortless feminism was the norm.  Now I&#039;m much more cynical, of course, but I still think that my dad&#039;s unspoken feminism has made me into a strong woman with high expectations re: being treated as an equal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to chime in with a shout-out to my dad, who is awesome.  </p>
<p>Just like SarahMC and PhDork, my dad would probably never overtly claim to be feminist, although he kind of is, in his own quiet way.  My mom&#8217;s pretty outspoken and chatty (traits I inherited, natch) and would definitely identify as a feminist.  My dad&#8217;s much more taciturn, but everything he does and says (when he bothers to say anything, it&#8217;s always either true or important or both) reinforces the feminist leanings my mom expresses overtly.  (He himself was raised by my awesome grandfather and kickass grandmother, so there you go.)</p>
<p>If anything, he taught me that it&#8217;s possible to be a feminist without being visibly identifiable as such; he also normalized feminism for me by not drawing attention to it.  He raised me with the utopian belief that his quiet, effortless feminism was the norm.  Now I&#8217;m much more cynical, of course, but I still think that my dad&#8217;s unspoken feminism has made me into a strong woman with high expectations re: being treated as an equal.</p>
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