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		<title>By: PhDork</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/07/07/to-watch-or-not-to-watch-that-is-the-question/comment-page-1/#comment-11254</link>
		<dc:creator>PhDork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 15:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[oohhhhh, vegkitty, the camerawork.  Don&#039;t get me started.  Yes, yes, you&#039;ve got a fancy camera crane, I see that. Could you quit it with the spinny-spinny and cutting the dancers off at the ankle?

And Blondegrlz, I like seeing all those ass-kicking bodies, too.  Some are very slim and attenuated, of course, but it&#039;s great to see that &quot;beautiful&quot; and &quot;athletic&quot; isn&#039;t limited to the genetically willowy.  (Although Mia&#039;s comment a couple eps ago to Randi about her dancing &quot;heavy&quot; sounded like not-so-secret code to me.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oohhhhh, vegkitty, the camerawork.  Don&#8217;t get me started.  Yes, yes, you&#8217;ve got a fancy camera crane, I see that. Could you quit it with the spinny-spinny and cutting the dancers off at the ankle?</p>
<p>And Blondegrlz, I like seeing all those ass-kicking bodies, too.  Some are very slim and attenuated, of course, but it&#8217;s great to see that &#8220;beautiful&#8221; and &#8220;athletic&#8221; isn&#8217;t limited to the genetically willowy.  (Although Mia&#8217;s comment a couple eps ago to Randi about her dancing &#8220;heavy&#8221; sounded like not-so-secret code to me.)</p>
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		<title>By: Ballroom Dance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ballroom Dance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 10:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just cant stop my self to comment on your blog. Thanks for sharing and good dress.

Pinky
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just cant stop my self to comment on your blog. Thanks for sharing and good dress.</p>
<p>Pinky<br />
<a HREF="http://www.ras-this.com/" title="Ballroom Dance" rel="nofollow">Ballroom Dance</a> Teacher <img src='http://www.harpyness.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: baraqiel</title>
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		<dc:creator>baraqiel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 10:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh man, I just watched that video (no vids at work) and if you guys liked it, you should watch the movie the song came from, Om Shanti Om, (or something more classic like Dilwale Dulhania le Jayenge if you don&#039;t know the genre at all, that one&#039;s sort of in-jokey).  Bollywood movies have *great* dancing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh man, I just watched that video (no vids at work) and if you guys liked it, you should watch the movie the song came from, Om Shanti Om, (or something more classic like Dilwale Dulhania le Jayenge if you don&#8217;t know the genre at all, that one&#8217;s sort of in-jokey).  Bollywood movies have *great* dancing.</p>
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		<title>By: Blondegrlz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blondegrlz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 00:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[HA, I&#039;m watching SYTYCD right now. I&#039;ve watched literally every episode since the first one, mostly live, and I tape the results shows to avoid the (mostly) horrible singers they always seem to feature. 

Nigel has ALWAYS been a dirty old man, albeit a dirty old man who seems to know enough about correct technique and dance styles to add intelligent commentary when he&#039;s not being sexist and homophobic. 

I&#039;ve actually found the judges to be much more accepting of different body types/disabilities during the audition process. Season 2 featured a couple of plus sized contestants, one of which just couldn&#039;t keep up in Vegas due to his weight. And there have been at least two contestants with physical deformities (and one with a fake leg) who the judges have given very very high praise. Unfortunately they use the &quot;impossible to partner&quot; excuse to keep them off the show. Which is at least 50% true. 

I also love how varied the dancers bodies are - the women are often very athletic (compared to the stick-thin celebrities on DWTS) and the guys range all over the place. I feel BETTER about the size of my thighs after watching instead of worse.

Sooooo....I pretty much love love love this show and choose to ignore the bad parts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HA, I&#8217;m watching SYTYCD right now. I&#8217;ve watched literally every episode since the first one, mostly live, and I tape the results shows to avoid the (mostly) horrible singers they always seem to feature. </p>
<p>Nigel has ALWAYS been a dirty old man, albeit a dirty old man who seems to know enough about correct technique and dance styles to add intelligent commentary when he&#8217;s not being sexist and homophobic. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve actually found the judges to be much more accepting of different body types/disabilities during the audition process. Season 2 featured a couple of plus sized contestants, one of which just couldn&#8217;t keep up in Vegas due to his weight. And there have been at least two contestants with physical deformities (and one with a fake leg) who the judges have given very very high praise. Unfortunately they use the &#8220;impossible to partner&#8221; excuse to keep them off the show. Which is at least 50% true. </p>
<p>I also love how varied the dancers bodies are &#8211; the women are often very athletic (compared to the stick-thin celebrities on DWTS) and the guys range all over the place. I feel BETTER about the size of my thighs after watching instead of worse.</p>
<p>Sooooo&#8230;.I pretty much love love love this show and choose to ignore the bad parts.</p>
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		<title>By: DangerMouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>DangerMouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 13:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dork: Thanks! I don&#039;t have cable either, so I understand the offensive/more offensive dichotomy (really, only Jeopardy feels safe these days). My TV actually offed itself yesterday and stopped showing the top half, so I suppose I&#039;ll just watch things online for a while. I hate watching blurry dancing though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dork: Thanks! I don&#8217;t have cable either, so I understand the offensive/more offensive dichotomy (really, only Jeopardy feels safe these days). My TV actually offed itself yesterday and stopped showing the top half, so I suppose I&#8217;ll just watch things online for a while. I hate watching blurry dancing though.</p>
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		<title>By: savia</title>
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		<dc:creator>savia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 04:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SYTYCD is the only reality TV show I watch, and I adore it. To add to the sexist language you&#039;ve already mentioned, ever notice how the host/judges refer to the male/female dancers on every single show.

&quot;Guys&quot; and &quot;Girls.&quot; 

I cringe every time. Why are the females infantilized but the males are not? If you&#039;re going to use &quot;guys&quot;, why not use &quot;gals&quot;, then? Would you call them &quot;boys&quot;? So why is it okay to call the WOMEN &quot;girls&quot;?

Seriously pisses me off!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SYTYCD is the only reality TV show I watch, and I adore it. To add to the sexist language you&#8217;ve already mentioned, ever notice how the host/judges refer to the male/female dancers on every single show.</p>
<p>&#8220;Guys&#8221; and &#8220;Girls.&#8221; </p>
<p>I cringe every time. Why are the females infantilized but the males are not? If you&#8217;re going to use &#8220;guys&#8221;, why not use &#8220;gals&#8221;, then? Would you call them &#8220;boys&#8221;? So why is it okay to call the WOMEN &#8220;girls&#8221;?</p>
<p>Seriously pisses me off!</p>
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		<title>By: vegkitty</title>
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		<dc:creator>vegkitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 04:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I LOVE LOVE LOVE SYTYCD.  This season is starting to irritate me, though.  The camera work is horrible, the judges have been less-than-helpful, and I feel like the choreography has just been meh.  I wish that shows like this and American Idol would just pre-tape the shows, get rid of the studio audience, and have the judges critique the contestants on their actual body of work (like Top Model, but without Tyra&#039;s self-obsession).

Nigel needs to GFTO, to be honest.  His comment about the alien dance last week irked me (something to the tune of, &quot;If you&#039;re trying to impregnate the man, you&#039;re wearing an awful lot of clothing.  You look like a dancing condom.&quot;)  Like, really?  Shut up, creepy old man.

As for heteronormativity... I feel like that territory kind of comes with dance.  The stories have to be very simple (see the Bleeding Love dance... really simple story, executed beautifully), so a lot of times the choreographers have to stick with heteronormative stories to avoid confusing the audience (I can see Joe Six Pack scratching his head, wondering why them two girls are dancing so close).  That said, I feel like the show WOULD be a great beginning point for mixing up some of the heteronormativity in the dance world.  A gay/lesbian love story, perhaps?

Finally, because this comment has dragged on forever, I feel like the overwhelming amount of contemporary dancers this season kind of ties in with the sexist, homophobic, ableist, racist sentiment that PhDork brought up.  There&#039;s so much diversity and talent in the dance world, why does the show limit its pool by allowing mediocre contemporary dancers in over amazing non-contemporary dancers (Ryan Kasperczak, anyone?  e.g. the man of my dreams?).  At the end of the day, they want asses in the seats, and they&#039;ll stick to the status quo to get there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I LOVE LOVE LOVE SYTYCD.  This season is starting to irritate me, though.  The camera work is horrible, the judges have been less-than-helpful, and I feel like the choreography has just been meh.  I wish that shows like this and American Idol would just pre-tape the shows, get rid of the studio audience, and have the judges critique the contestants on their actual body of work (like Top Model, but without Tyra&#8217;s self-obsession).</p>
<p>Nigel needs to GFTO, to be honest.  His comment about the alien dance last week irked me (something to the tune of, &#8220;If you&#8217;re trying to impregnate the man, you&#8217;re wearing an awful lot of clothing.  You look like a dancing condom.&#8221;)  Like, really?  Shut up, creepy old man.</p>
<p>As for heteronormativity&#8230; I feel like that territory kind of comes with dance.  The stories have to be very simple (see the Bleeding Love dance&#8230; really simple story, executed beautifully), so a lot of times the choreographers have to stick with heteronormative stories to avoid confusing the audience (I can see Joe Six Pack scratching his head, wondering why them two girls are dancing so close).  That said, I feel like the show WOULD be a great beginning point for mixing up some of the heteronormativity in the dance world.  A gay/lesbian love story, perhaps?</p>
<p>Finally, because this comment has dragged on forever, I feel like the overwhelming amount of contemporary dancers this season kind of ties in with the sexist, homophobic, ableist, racist sentiment that PhDork brought up.  There&#8217;s so much diversity and talent in the dance world, why does the show limit its pool by allowing mediocre contemporary dancers in over amazing non-contemporary dancers (Ryan Kasperczak, anyone?  e.g. the man of my dreams?).  At the end of the day, they want asses in the seats, and they&#8217;ll stick to the status quo to get there.</p>
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		<title>By: Complain-o-peeps</title>
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		<dc:creator>Complain-o-peeps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oops!  I forgot to say, if you follow that link (http://www.watchabdc.com/category/abdc/season-3/beat-freaks/), scroll down to Episode 6.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops!  I forgot to say, if you follow that link (<a href="http://www.watchabdc.com/category/abdc/season-3/beat-freaks/" rel="nofollow">http://www.watchabdc.com/category/abdc/season-3/beat-freaks/</a>), scroll down to Episode 6.</p>
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		<title>By: Complain-o-peeps</title>
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		<dc:creator>Complain-o-peeps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I do so love SYTYCD, in part because it&#039;s not about the backstage drama, or who can act the vilest.  Talent, skill, and hard work rule.  I fast-forward through the commentary, which I find to be mostly useless (that, and Mary&#039;s eerily expressionless face freaks me out).  My 5 year-old and I watch the dances over and over.  Same with America&#039;s Best Dance Crew, which unfortunately, since we just got rid of cable, we&#039;re going to be missing (seriously, if you&#039;ve never watched ABDC before, check out the all-female crew that went to the finals last season http://www.watchabdc.com/category/abdc/season-3/beat-freaks/ - the dance starts ~1:30 in).  I find these shows (along with DVDs of Project Runway) to be some of the most kid-friendly evening programming on TV.  None of these shows are perfect, but heteronormativity and ableism aside (teachable moments!), when we skip the commentary, I like that my son gets a broader view of masculinity (Men sew! Men dance!) that doesn&#039;t involve super heroes, fighting, or cars. Out-and-proud gay men along side gay-panic-free straight men, working or competing as equals with competent women, that is a rare find on TV.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do so love SYTYCD, in part because it&#8217;s not about the backstage drama, or who can act the vilest.  Talent, skill, and hard work rule.  I fast-forward through the commentary, which I find to be mostly useless (that, and Mary&#8217;s eerily expressionless face freaks me out).  My 5 year-old and I watch the dances over and over.  Same with America&#8217;s Best Dance Crew, which unfortunately, since we just got rid of cable, we&#8217;re going to be missing (seriously, if you&#8217;ve never watched ABDC before, check out the all-female crew that went to the finals last season <a href="http://www.watchabdc.com/category/abdc/season-3/beat-freaks/" rel="nofollow">http://www.watchabdc.com/category/abdc/season-3/beat-freaks/</a> &#8211; the dance starts ~1:30 in).  I find these shows (along with DVDs of Project Runway) to be some of the most kid-friendly evening programming on TV.  None of these shows are perfect, but heteronormativity and ableism aside (teachable moments!), when we skip the commentary, I like that my son gets a broader view of masculinity (Men sew! Men dance!) that doesn&#8217;t involve super heroes, fighting, or cars. Out-and-proud gay men along side gay-panic-free straight men, working or competing as equals with competent women, that is a rare find on TV.</p>
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		<title>By: PhDork</title>
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		<dc:creator>PhDork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ppg and bb:  Thanks for those links (recommended, all).  After I wrote this, I watched clips from old shows for an hour, and they are lovely to revisit.  I was so thrilled when Sabra won S3.

ppg, I wonder if there&#039;s a connection between the judges&#039; disdain for hip-hop, krumping, etc., and the relatively less gendered roles (and often costumes) that come with it.  Again, they might just not get a story about classmates, or robots, or whatever.

teacups, MM has toned down her assiness somewhat this season, I think.  I do generally like her stuff (that bitches be krayzay! door routine though...) but you&#039;re right, there typically seems to be some weird competitive angle to her comments to the women.

emilyanne, you tempt me with your Brooklyny teevee goodness.  Once your new behbeh arrives, though, you mightn&#039;t want the additional stress of company.  Unless I promise to bring dinner and change nappies, anyway.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ppg and bb:  Thanks for those links (recommended, all).  After I wrote this, I watched clips from old shows for an hour, and they are lovely to revisit.  I was so thrilled when Sabra won S3.</p>
<p>ppg, I wonder if there&#8217;s a connection between the judges&#8217; disdain for hip-hop, krumping, etc., and the relatively less gendered roles (and often costumes) that come with it.  Again, they might just not get a story about classmates, or robots, or whatever.</p>
<p>teacups, MM has toned down her assiness somewhat this season, I think.  I do generally like her stuff (that bitches be krayzay! door routine though&#8230;) but you&#8217;re right, there typically seems to be some weird competitive angle to her comments to the women.</p>
<p>emilyanne, you tempt me with your Brooklyny teevee goodness.  Once your new behbeh arrives, though, you mightn&#8217;t want the additional stress of company.  Unless I promise to bring dinner and change nappies, anyway.</p>
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