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		<title>By: Girls Rock! - The Pursuit of Harpyness</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/08/14/friday-fun-thread-summer-camp/comment-page-1/#comment-13543</link>
		<dc:creator>Girls Rock! - The Pursuit of Harpyness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the heels of our last Friday Fun Thread re: summer camp, I have to give a big shout out to some fierce girls who spend their summers [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Marcy Webb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcy Webb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 20:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I came of age in the 1970s and 1980s.  Camp was for &quot;rich kids&quot; and &quot;rich White kids&quot; at that.  My friends and I - I was raised in a predominately White suburban community - spent the summers engaged in physical activities of all kinds, and, enjoying each other&#039;s company.  

 As a middle class Black kid, I didn&#039;t know of any other middle class Black kids who attended camp, and, if one was Black, they were so-called disadvantaged Black kids, from urban areas, and attended camp via programs such as the Fresh Air Fund.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came of age in the 1970s and 1980s.  Camp was for &#8220;rich kids&#8221; and &#8220;rich White kids&#8221; at that.  My friends and I &#8211; I was raised in a predominately White suburban community &#8211; spent the summers engaged in physical activities of all kinds, and, enjoying each other&#8217;s company.  </p>
<p> As a middle class Black kid, I didn&#8217;t know of any other middle class Black kids who attended camp, and, if one was Black, they were so-called disadvantaged Black kids, from urban areas, and attended camp via programs such as the Fresh Air Fund.</p>
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		<title>By: CyFur</title>
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		<dc:creator>CyFur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 00:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@BeckySharper: Thanks for the warm welcome! And I would recommend sending kids to camp when they&#039;re young(ish), &#039;cause you can bounce back and adjust to stuff better, and I think you can enjoy activities more. I&#039;m also a bookworm, but I did get some enjoyment from outdoorsy type things.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@BeckySharper: Thanks for the warm welcome! And I would recommend sending kids to camp when they&#8217;re young(ish), &#8217;cause you can bounce back and adjust to stuff better, and I think you can enjoy activities more. I&#8217;m also a bookworm, but I did get some enjoyment from outdoorsy type things.</p>
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		<title>By: BeckySharper</title>
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		<dc:creator>BeckySharper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 22:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@CyFur: Hey, welcome! I often wonder if I have kids in New York City what I&#039;ll do to make sure they&#039;re exposed to greenery. Since I can&#039;t afford a house in the Berkshires, summer camp may be my only option. Who knows--maybe they won&#039;t be as anti-camp as me!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@CyFur: Hey, welcome! I often wonder if I have kids in New York City what I&#8217;ll do to make sure they&#8217;re exposed to greenery. Since I can&#8217;t afford a house in the Berkshires, summer camp may be my only option. Who knows&#8211;maybe they won&#8217;t be as anti-camp as me!</p>
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		<title>By: mischiefmanager</title>
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		<dc:creator>mischiefmanager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 22:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I live in Pittsburgh (bring it, stalkers!)  and we have absolutely fabulous summer resources for kids.  We never wanted or needed to send our kids away for the summer because of the huge range of choices offered here.  From arts of all sorts, to science of all sorts, to camps in the park to learn about our ecosystem (we have wonderful parks here in the city) to sports camps to a week on a boat exploring our three rivers-the hard part was making the choice.  

Pittsburgh ftw!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Pittsburgh (bring it, stalkers!)  and we have absolutely fabulous summer resources for kids.  We never wanted or needed to send our kids away for the summer because of the huge range of choices offered here.  From arts of all sorts, to science of all sorts, to camps in the park to learn about our ecosystem (we have wonderful parks here in the city) to sports camps to a week on a boat exploring our three rivers-the hard part was making the choice.  </p>
<p>Pittsburgh ftw!</p>
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		<title>By: Penny_Esq</title>
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		<dc:creator>Penny_Esq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 21:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I went to several camps as a kid, but in the Northwest camp is pretty much always just a week long. The Northeastern all-summer-long thing would have traumatized me, for sure; I always got homesick. I went to an OMSI (Oregon Museum of Science &amp; Industry) when I was like 7, then did a week of Campfire camp every summer for a few years, and then went to horse camp in middle school.

The horse camp was also Bible camp, and although I LOVED it, including the Bible stuff, I think back to some of the crazy I was exposed to there and how readily I bought it and I&#039;m appalled. Especially the summer I was a junior counselor there, holy moly, the staff meetings were ludicrous. I guess there was a &quot;seminary&quot; of some sort on site, and a lot of the senior counselors were students there, and I remember a couple of them were all about &quot;apologetics,&quot; which involved standing outside the temple in Salt Lake City shouting down the Mormons about their heretical beliefs like those nutty dudes with sandwich boards. Another guy wanted to put a &quot;wolf table&quot; up where the kids could peruse various insidious religious tracts so as not to be fooled if they were ever presented as &quot;Christian&quot; teachings. This table included a Catholic Bible, because of the Apocrypha as well as the fact that Catholic churches don&#039;t have empty crosses but crucifixes. The logical leap there was that &quot;our&quot; Jesus isn&#039;t dead anymore, he&#039;s resurrected, but &quot;their&quot; Jesus is still hanging up there on the cross. This place was NOT messing around.

I really loved counseling, though, especially the week I did day camp with the little teeny kids. My camp name was Guppy, and I had a group of little girls who were going into second grade, and one of them asked me if I was married (I was 15). And I told her I wasn&#039;t because I was a little young, so she asked if I had a boyfriend and I told I used to, but he broke up with me. And she said, &quot;I love you, Guppy, I&#039;d never break up with you.&quot; Which brings a little tear to my eye to this day. In spite of the religious lunacy, camp was usually good times.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went to several camps as a kid, but in the Northwest camp is pretty much always just a week long. The Northeastern all-summer-long thing would have traumatized me, for sure; I always got homesick. I went to an OMSI (Oregon Museum of Science &amp; Industry) when I was like 7, then did a week of Campfire camp every summer for a few years, and then went to horse camp in middle school.</p>
<p>The horse camp was also Bible camp, and although I LOVED it, including the Bible stuff, I think back to some of the crazy I was exposed to there and how readily I bought it and I&#8217;m appalled. Especially the summer I was a junior counselor there, holy moly, the staff meetings were ludicrous. I guess there was a &#8220;seminary&#8221; of some sort on site, and a lot of the senior counselors were students there, and I remember a couple of them were all about &#8220;apologetics,&#8221; which involved standing outside the temple in Salt Lake City shouting down the Mormons about their heretical beliefs like those nutty dudes with sandwich boards. Another guy wanted to put a &#8220;wolf table&#8221; up where the kids could peruse various insidious religious tracts so as not to be fooled if they were ever presented as &#8220;Christian&#8221; teachings. This table included a Catholic Bible, because of the Apocrypha as well as the fact that Catholic churches don&#8217;t have empty crosses but crucifixes. The logical leap there was that &#8220;our&#8221; Jesus isn&#8217;t dead anymore, he&#8217;s resurrected, but &#8220;their&#8221; Jesus is still hanging up there on the cross. This place was NOT messing around.</p>
<p>I really loved counseling, though, especially the week I did day camp with the little teeny kids. My camp name was Guppy, and I had a group of little girls who were going into second grade, and one of them asked me if I was married (I was 15). And I told her I wasn&#8217;t because I was a little young, so she asked if I had a boyfriend and I told I used to, but he broke up with me. And she said, &#8220;I love you, Guppy, I&#8217;d never break up with you.&#8221; Which brings a little tear to my eye to this day. In spite of the religious lunacy, camp was usually good times.</p>
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		<title>By: CyFur</title>
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		<dc:creator>CyFur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 20:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I was younger, I loved camp. Until about age thirteen, I&#039;d say. After that, at least in my experience, a lot of the girls tend to get meaner. Then again, it might have just been my experience. I know some of the worst bullying I ever had to deal with was at camp. There were some wonderful things about it, though. I live in the middle of Manhattan, so the chance to go somewhere /green/ was wonderful, as was the chance to do all that outdoorsy type stuff that I love that I rarely get a chance to do the rest of the time. I&#039;m sorry if this is all meandering-like, but I think the point I&#039;m trying to make is that camp tends to be more enjoyable simply for being camp (versus for the people you meet there) when you&#039;re younger. Also, I love this blog, and this is the first time I&#039;ve actually had the guts to post. So, uh, thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was younger, I loved camp. Until about age thirteen, I&#8217;d say. After that, at least in my experience, a lot of the girls tend to get meaner. Then again, it might have just been my experience. I know some of the worst bullying I ever had to deal with was at camp. There were some wonderful things about it, though. I live in the middle of Manhattan, so the chance to go somewhere /green/ was wonderful, as was the chance to do all that outdoorsy type stuff that I love that I rarely get a chance to do the rest of the time. I&#8217;m sorry if this is all meandering-like, but I think the point I&#8217;m trying to make is that camp tends to be more enjoyable simply for being camp (versus for the people you meet there) when you&#8217;re younger. Also, I love this blog, and this is the first time I&#8217;ve actually had the guts to post. So, uh, thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Martha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 20:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;@bluebears: There should be a camp for bookworms that’s just row upon row of comfy chairs on a porch somewhere, with snack breaks. I don’t know why no one’s thought of this. It would be the easiest camp ever to run.&quot;

Ha!  I love that idea- so much better than Model UN camp!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;@bluebears: There should be a camp for bookworms that’s just row upon row of comfy chairs on a porch somewhere, with snack breaks. I don’t know why no one’s thought of this. It would be the easiest camp ever to run.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ha!  I love that idea- so much better than Model UN camp!</p>
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		<title>By: Endora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Endora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 19:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hated day camp (never went to an overnight).  I spent every summer staying with my dad, who lived far away from my mom (she was supposed to move to where he did too, but didn&#039;t for a very long time), and played blissfully with cousins until about age 9.  Then my mom decided that I was too shy and camp would help--so my dad was forced to send me to a camp instead of to my cousins&#039;.

Every other kid there had come with a friend or two, and I knew NO ONE, seeing as the camp was in a different state than my school and all. I was never one for forced socializing, and wasn&#039;t great at sports or art (also a big bookworm), so I didn&#039;t exactly find great success there in any respect.

Thinking back on it, as exaggerated as it might sound, I think it was actually pretty traumatic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hated day camp (never went to an overnight).  I spent every summer staying with my dad, who lived far away from my mom (she was supposed to move to where he did too, but didn&#8217;t for a very long time), and played blissfully with cousins until about age 9.  Then my mom decided that I was too shy and camp would help&#8211;so my dad was forced to send me to a camp instead of to my cousins&#8217;.</p>
<p>Every other kid there had come with a friend or two, and I knew NO ONE, seeing as the camp was in a different state than my school and all. I was never one for forced socializing, and wasn&#8217;t great at sports or art (also a big bookworm), so I didn&#8217;t exactly find great success there in any respect.</p>
<p>Thinking back on it, as exaggerated as it might sound, I think it was actually pretty traumatic.</p>
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		<title>By: Melody Ann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melody Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 18:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had to go to all-girl Baptist sleep away camps until I was 13.

Then I went to co-ed Baptist sleep away camps until I declared myself an atheist (largely due, in part, to the trauma of Baptist sleep away camp) and had absolutely nothing to do with The Church.

It was that bad. Seriously. Imagine you&#039;re watching Jesus Camp, except that it&#039;s happening to you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had to go to all-girl Baptist sleep away camps until I was 13.</p>
<p>Then I went to co-ed Baptist sleep away camps until I declared myself an atheist (largely due, in part, to the trauma of Baptist sleep away camp) and had absolutely nothing to do with The Church.</p>
<p>It was that bad. Seriously. Imagine you&#8217;re watching Jesus Camp, except that it&#8217;s happening to you.</p>
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