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	<title>Comments on: Harpy Cinematical Society: Julie &amp; Julia</title>
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		<title>By: bellacoker</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2009/09/07/harpy-cinematical-society-julie-julia/comment-page-1/#comment-14696</link>
		<dc:creator>bellacoker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 20:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[God!  I loved this movie!

So many movies with female characters are about finding a man and then living happily ever after, I thought it was very refreshing that both Julie and Julia were married to good guys but they weren&#039;t &quot;complete.&quot;  They were looking for something else, and found it themselves . . . with a little help from their friends, etc.  

Also, Julia&#039;s childlessness was lovingly handled and heartwrenching.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God!  I loved this movie!</p>
<p>So many movies with female characters are about finding a man and then living happily ever after, I thought it was very refreshing that both Julie and Julia were married to good guys but they weren&#8217;t &#8220;complete.&#8221;  They were looking for something else, and found it themselves . . . with a little help from their friends, etc.  </p>
<p>Also, Julia&#8217;s childlessness was lovingly handled and heartwrenching.</p>
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		<title>By: vickimae</title>
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		<dc:creator>vickimae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I personally loved the structure of the film: it was wonderfully inter-texual. I mean, think about it: it was a film, about a memoir, about a blog, written in response to a cookbook, with flashbacks!

And as a struggling blogger, I was just impressed that Julia (real and fiction) was able to both cook and blog consistently, every day! 

But I do agree with the general consensus: the Julia Child sections were especially brilliant; I loved seeing a strong woman portrayed in a nuanced and funny way. Although the Julie Powell character may not have been as &#039;strong&#039; (which may be why some of us don&#039;t like her- we don&#039;t admire her like we do Julia/Meryll), she was relateable as a downtrodden modern gal.

As a whole, I thought the film was... delicious.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally loved the structure of the film: it was wonderfully inter-texual. I mean, think about it: it was a film, about a memoir, about a blog, written in response to a cookbook, with flashbacks!</p>
<p>And as a struggling blogger, I was just impressed that Julia (real and fiction) was able to both cook and blog consistently, every day! </p>
<p>But I do agree with the general consensus: the Julia Child sections were especially brilliant; I loved seeing a strong woman portrayed in a nuanced and funny way. Although the Julie Powell character may not have been as &#8216;strong&#8217; (which may be why some of us don&#8217;t like her- we don&#8217;t admire her like we do Julia/Meryll), she was relateable as a downtrodden modern gal.</p>
<p>As a whole, I thought the film was&#8230; delicious.</p>
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		<title>By: bluenose sailor</title>
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		<dc:creator>bluenose sailor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 15:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ BeckySharper and PhDork: Both very apt critiques of my comment. 

It was lazy of me to say that Julia didn&#039;t make mistakes - it was her attitude about her mistakes that made the real difference. 

For me, the Julia Child part of the film was an exercise in nostalgia. &quot;Who in today&#039;s day and age has the same joie de vivre, innate optimism, charm, and ebullience?&quot; the film kept asking, and the answer was, &quot;no one since Julia!&quot;. Now, the thing needed for successful nostalgia is a sense of contrast, which is what I felt the Julie parts of the film provided in buckets. However, I agree that the Powell section might have been unnecessary, and that maybe the nostalgia would have worked so much better (e.g. been more of an escape) if the Powell storyline wasn&#039;t hanging around like a wet blanket.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ BeckySharper and PhDork: Both very apt critiques of my comment. </p>
<p>It was lazy of me to say that Julia didn&#8217;t make mistakes &#8211; it was her attitude about her mistakes that made the real difference. </p>
<p>For me, the Julia Child part of the film was an exercise in nostalgia. &#8220;Who in today&#8217;s day and age has the same joie de vivre, innate optimism, charm, and ebullience?&#8221; the film kept asking, and the answer was, &#8220;no one since Julia!&#8221;. Now, the thing needed for successful nostalgia is a sense of contrast, which is what I felt the Julie parts of the film provided in buckets. However, I agree that the Powell section might have been unnecessary, and that maybe the nostalgia would have worked so much better (e.g. been more of an escape) if the Powell storyline wasn&#8217;t hanging around like a wet blanket.</p>
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		<title>By: PhDork</title>
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		<dc:creator>PhDork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;we make way more mistakes than the perfect Julia ever did&lt;/em&gt;

Except that Julia made mistakes all the time.  And she let &#039;em roll of her back.  Scorch the scallops?  Whoops, just scrape that stuff off.  Spill a little salt?  Just toss some over your shoulder and keep going.  Drop the chicken on the floor?  Pick it up, rinse it off, and truss it.  

That said, I think (even though I haven&#039;t seen the film) you&#039;re right.  Someone earlier mentioned the joy/pleasure that Julia and her husband got from their relationship and from food and travel, compared to our modern day couple, who are pinched and clenchy about shit that just really doesn&#039;t matter.  We don&#039;t make way more mistakes than Julia; we just make way too big a deal out of them. (And yeah, that&#039;s a kind of narcissism.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>we make way more mistakes than the perfect Julia ever did</em></p>
<p>Except that Julia made mistakes all the time.  And she let &#8216;em roll of her back.  Scorch the scallops?  Whoops, just scrape that stuff off.  Spill a little salt?  Just toss some over your shoulder and keep going.  Drop the chicken on the floor?  Pick it up, rinse it off, and truss it.  </p>
<p>That said, I think (even though I haven&#8217;t seen the film) you&#8217;re right.  Someone earlier mentioned the joy/pleasure that Julia and her husband got from their relationship and from food and travel, compared to our modern day couple, who are pinched and clenchy about shit that just really doesn&#8217;t matter.  We don&#8217;t make way more mistakes than Julia; we just make way too big a deal out of them. (And yeah, that&#8217;s a kind of narcissism.)</p>
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		<title>By: BeckySharper</title>
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		<dc:creator>BeckySharper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 03:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@bluenose: I think the &quot;bogged down by ourselves and our narcissism&quot; quality you&#039;re talking about may be why people didn&#039;t love the Julie part.  Even if we see those qualities in ourselves when we watch the film, well, that still doesn&#039;t make them appealing.  I suspect most of us would much rather be like--and spend time with--Julia, who had so much joie de vivre, and didn&#039;t seem to care that she didn&#039;t fit in and wasn&#039;t living the life that society told her to.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@bluenose: I think the &#8220;bogged down by ourselves and our narcissism&#8221; quality you&#8217;re talking about may be why people didn&#8217;t love the Julie part.  Even if we see those qualities in ourselves when we watch the film, well, that still doesn&#8217;t make them appealing.  I suspect most of us would much rather be like&#8211;and spend time with&#8211;Julia, who had so much joie de vivre, and didn&#8217;t seem to care that she didn&#8217;t fit in and wasn&#8217;t living the life that society told her to.</p>
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		<title>By: bluenose sailor</title>
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		<dc:creator>bluenose sailor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 03:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I feel all alone in my appreciation of the Julie storyline! No, it wasn&#039;t as good as the Julia story, but I sort of think that was the point Ephron was making - to show the contrast between a woman who would be amazing in any age, and the rest of us, in the here-and-now, who are overly critical, perfectionist, and self-centred. We&#039;re bogged down by ourselves and our narcissism, we make way more mistakes than the perfect Julia ever did, and yet we have the occasional moments of clarity where the real us comes into focus and we make amends and we accept life.

Further to that, I didn&#039;t think Powell&#039;s husband was protrayed as perfect - he himself (in the film) railed against being pegged as &quot;perfect&quot; just because he had a personality that was normally wuite easy to get along with. What I got from the film was that he wanted to be the cranky, stubborn, defensive one sometimes and was resentful that Powell cast him in the hero role.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel all alone in my appreciation of the Julie storyline! No, it wasn&#8217;t as good as the Julia story, but I sort of think that was the point Ephron was making &#8211; to show the contrast between a woman who would be amazing in any age, and the rest of us, in the here-and-now, who are overly critical, perfectionist, and self-centred. We&#8217;re bogged down by ourselves and our narcissism, we make way more mistakes than the perfect Julia ever did, and yet we have the occasional moments of clarity where the real us comes into focus and we make amends and we accept life.</p>
<p>Further to that, I didn&#8217;t think Powell&#8217;s husband was protrayed as perfect &#8211; he himself (in the film) railed against being pegged as &#8220;perfect&#8221; just because he had a personality that was normally wuite easy to get along with. What I got from the film was that he wanted to be the cranky, stubborn, defensive one sometimes and was resentful that Powell cast him in the hero role.</p>
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		<title>By: elizabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 23:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ceejeemcbeegee:  SEE IT!!  Meryl and Stanley are phenomenal onscreen--so much sexual, sensual and intellectual chemistry sparked between the two of them.  I left the movie completely beliving that the two of them should be in every movie ever--that&#039;s how good they were together.

As much as I loved the celebration of food and eating, what made me so happy with this movie was that it was a romantic comedy that wasn&#039;t about silly dating schemes or other tired tropes--and that it did so well in the  theaters shows that yes, there IS a market for movies like this--completely refreshing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ceejeemcbeegee:  SEE IT!!  Meryl and Stanley are phenomenal onscreen&#8211;so much sexual, sensual and intellectual chemistry sparked between the two of them.  I left the movie completely beliving that the two of them should be in every movie ever&#8211;that&#8217;s how good they were together.</p>
<p>As much as I loved the celebration of food and eating, what made me so happy with this movie was that it was a romantic comedy that wasn&#8217;t about silly dating schemes or other tired tropes&#8211;and that it did so well in the  theaters shows that yes, there IS a market for movies like this&#8211;completely refreshing.</p>
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		<title>By: BeckySharper</title>
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		<dc:creator>BeckySharper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 23:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ceejee: I think so. I mean, the Julie part isn&#039;t unbearable, just a lot less fab than the Julia part. Meryl &amp; Stanley are well worth the price of admission.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ceejee: I think so. I mean, the Julie part isn&#8217;t unbearable, just a lot less fab than the Julia part. Meryl &#038; Stanley are well worth the price of admission.</p>
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		<title>By: ceejeemcbeegee</title>
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		<dc:creator>ceejeemcbeegee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 20:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I haven&#039;t seen it because I keep hearing how wack the Julie part is.  Is it worth seeing in spite of that?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t seen it because I keep hearing how wack the Julie part is.  Is it worth seeing in spite of that?</p>
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		<title>By: annimal</title>
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		<dc:creator>annimal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 20:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I saw this last week and agree that the Julia story was a lot more compelling than the Julie story.  I sometimes blog about cooking, so I was expecting to be more into Julie Powell&#039;s story, but it just didn&#039;t do it for me.
I really liked that the personalities of the various female side characters (sister, collaborators, friend) in the Julia story were really developed rather than letting them fall into the usual female cliches present in chick flicks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw this last week and agree that the Julia story was a lot more compelling than the Julie story.  I sometimes blog about cooking, so I was expecting to be more into Julie Powell&#8217;s story, but it just didn&#8217;t do it for me.<br />
I really liked that the personalities of the various female side characters (sister, collaborators, friend) in the Julia story were really developed rather than letting them fall into the usual female cliches present in chick flicks.</p>
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