Comments on: Women of the World: Put Out or Die in a Terrorist Attack

By: PhDork

PhDork — Sat, 09 Jan 2010 16:51:41 +0000

depresso, you are right. And I am quite possibly nuts (and how are you the first to notice?). I fixed the reference and offer my apologies for being asleep at the switch.

By: Nanaya

Nanaya — Sat, 09 Jan 2010 15:25:15 +0000

I don’t know what’s up with my browser, but that link’s taking me to the Independent, NOT the Guardian.

Otherwise…yeah, and check out his idiot article about what’s wrong with civil liberties activists as well.

By: depresso

depresso — Sat, 09 Jan 2010 10:05:47 +0000

Er… The link goes to the Independent, not the Guardian. The Indie used to be fairly lefty and progressive, until about a year ago when they got a new editor who seemed to think that turning it into a newsprint lads’ mag was the way to go. Kinda OT, I know, sorry.

By: AileenWuornos

AileenWuornos — Sat, 09 Jan 2010 02:33:03 +0000

I wonder who this asshat thinks will be fucking him.

By: PhDork

PhDork — Fri, 08 Jan 2010 23:02:24 +0000

slythwolf, that is brilliant. Sad and horrible and far too familiar. And brilliant. Might I suggest that you send Mr. Jacobson his revised paragraph, with a kind little note that he can choke on it?

By: slythwolf

slythwolf — Fri, 08 Jan 2010 22:22:05 +0000

That first quoted paragraph really struck me, because I can turn it around on him so easily.

What I remember about being a young woman was how little choice I was given. The impulses that drove my experiences were not mine, I was simply a hole to be filled. I didn’t know it at the time but I see clearly now that the young men of my acquaintance were urgently seeking what they considered “sex” but what is and can only be considered rape: putting their dicks in me, because it would feel good, uncaring as to what I thought or wanted or what might feel good to me. Not only me, of course. All of us that age and female. But you feel it as an injunction laid on you alone. This thing you must do, else you are mean, a tease, a bitch, a prude, not really grown enough to realize this is your function and your only future.

By: snobographer

snobographer — Fri, 08 Jan 2010 22:01:30 +0000

I’m confused. I thought women were supposed to be the ones who are ruled by their hormones. Looks like we’re going to have to stop electing men to public office, cut their pay, and exclude them from scientific fields and upper management positions. Actually if men are unable to refrain from violent behavior maybe we should just go ahead and lock them up in cages and toss raw meat at them.
I’ve never understood guys who make these sort of arguments. Do they want men to be generally respected as intelligent, rational, capable people or do they want men to be regarded as viscious and stupid animals? You can’t have both, dudes. Pick a lane.

By: Athena Andreadis

Athena Andreadis — Fri, 08 Jan 2010 18:53:32 +0000

Funny to hear men use the hormone excuse when it suits them. And it suits them quite a bit, even in self-labeled “progressive” groups who actually invoke “sociobiological facts” despite the debunking by such luminaries as Sarah Blaffer Hrdy and Anne Fausto-Sterling:

Is It Something in the Water? Or: Me Tarzan, You Ape
http://www.starshipreckless.com/blog/?p=712

By: bellacoker

bellacoker — Fri, 08 Jan 2010 18:05:24 +0000

“It’s really unobvious to me how one can address the idea that some women might want to have sex with men without coming across as advocating that men are entitled to sex with women in a feminist context.”

Brian:

I think the part that you are missing is that humans, both the male and female variety, can want to have sex. Period, full stop.

That want does not make us entitled to a partner. We don’t have the right to compel another person to meet our sexual needs.

Men are very happy when women want to have sex, even a lot of sex, as long as that desire benefits them. But, if a man wants to have sex with a woman and that woman’s desire is directed toward someone/something else, suddenly her sexual desire becomes less legitimate than his own desire. Because her desire is different from his, she is doing it wrong.

Shorter: Woman are people, just like you.

Hope that helps.

By: Cimorene

Cimorene — Fri, 08 Jan 2010 14:56:53 +0000

Also, for the record, for hundreds of years it was the women who were the insatiable lusty devilwhores. I mean, read some early christian literature–Tertullian or St. Jerome or any of them. They’re all, “Women are the flesh and men are the soul! The women are insatiable devils! They only want the sex! They can’t think logically because they only can think of the sex! Their hungry hungry vaginae will eat your soul mister menfolk so don’t be having the sex because once a woman starts with the sex she’ll never stop she’s so horny all the time she gets violent if she can’t make the sexytime!!!!!!11!” I mean I’m summarizing, but still. It wasn’t until the past what–200 years? or so, that women became the chaste virginal mothers that we’re all expected to be today. Men used to be the logical sex that was ruled by brains not boning.