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		<title>By: aspiringexpatriate</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2010/05/12/guest-post-gherkinfiend-on-the-uk-election/comment-page-1/#comment-27306</link>
		<dc:creator>aspiringexpatriate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 06:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To be fair, I did see coverage on Breakfast last week where they had two female MPs (one was a former MP) who both talked about how while the lack of women on the cabinet was upsetting, there were still a lot of good backbench wins for women. But again, there was no specific rhetoric of winning women voters. Though, I&#039;m not sure that&#039;s so horrible a thing, if in fact it means treating all voters as equals who care about the same issues. Also, JD, welcome to the UK, even if I&#039;m only here for another two weeks. You London based?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair, I did see coverage on Breakfast last week where they had two female MPs (one was a former MP) who both talked about how while the lack of women on the cabinet was upsetting, there were still a lot of good backbench wins for women. But again, there was no specific rhetoric of winning women voters. Though, I&#8217;m not sure that&#8217;s so horrible a thing, if in fact it means treating all voters as equals who care about the same issues. Also, JD, welcome to the UK, even if I&#8217;m only here for another two weeks. You London based?</p>
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		<title>By: JTB</title>
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		<dc:creator>JTB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2010 07:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ J.D. Regent

Being a baroness, Warisi sits in the House of Lords.

http://biographies.parliament.uk/parliament/default.asp?id=35329

There are 650 MPs in the House of Commons. Of these 142 are women and 27 are from ethnic minorities.

This is modestly encouraging, as there were only 15 MPs from ethnic minorities before the recent election.

http://www.parliament.uk/about/faqs/house-of-commons-faqs/members-faq-page2/

However analysis also shows that the new batch are more &quot;socially exclusive&quot; than before, more likely to have been educated privately and have a business background.

When newspapers can still write that the proportion of Conservative women MPs &quot;soared&quot; from 9% to 17%,there&#039;s still some way to go.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ J.D. Regent</p>
<p>Being a baroness, Warisi sits in the House of Lords.</p>
<p><a href="http://biographies.parliament.uk/parliament/default.asp?id=35329" rel="nofollow">http://biographies.parliament.uk/parliament/default.asp?id=35329</a></p>
<p>There are 650 MPs in the House of Commons. Of these 142 are women and 27 are from ethnic minorities.</p>
<p>This is modestly encouraging, as there were only 15 MPs from ethnic minorities before the recent election.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.parliament.uk/about/faqs/house-of-commons-faqs/members-faq-page2/" rel="nofollow">http://www.parliament.uk/about/faqs/house-of-commons-faqs/members-faq-page2/</a></p>
<p>However analysis also shows that the new batch are more &#8220;socially exclusive&#8221; than before, more likely to have been educated privately and have a business background.</p>
<p>When newspapers can still write that the proportion of Conservative women MPs &#8220;soared&#8221; from 9% to 17%,there&#8217;s still some way to go.</p>
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		<title>By: gherkinfiend</title>
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		<dc:creator>gherkinfiend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 12:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[JD Regent: it&#039;s not quite that bad. The Tories do have several other ethnic minority MPs, but she&#039;s the most high profile...and of course, you can only have one person of a minority visible at a time.

Emilyanne: great minds obviously think alike. I have voted for the Lib Dems since I moved to England, and prior to that I was an SDLP voter. I&#039;m not happy right now.

It did find that interesting about Blair&#039;s early Cabinet though. I always thought he was a bit more progressive, but that might just have been the brilliant Mo Mowlam holding him hostage.

This Kira Cochrane article scares me further about the Tories&#039; priorities on womens&#039; issues

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/may/07/women-parliament-election-losses-wins]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JD Regent: it&#8217;s not quite that bad. The Tories do have several other ethnic minority MPs, but she&#8217;s the most high profile&#8230;and of course, you can only have one person of a minority visible at a time.</p>
<p>Emilyanne: great minds obviously think alike. I have voted for the Lib Dems since I moved to England, and prior to that I was an SDLP voter. I&#8217;m not happy right now.</p>
<p>It did find that interesting about Blair&#8217;s early Cabinet though. I always thought he was a bit more progressive, but that might just have been the brilliant Mo Mowlam holding him hostage.</p>
<p>This Kira Cochrane article scares me further about the Tories&#8217; priorities on womens&#8217; issues</p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/may/07/women-parliament-election-losses-wins" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/may/07/women-parliament-election-losses-wins</a></p>
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		<title>By: J.D.Regent</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.D.Regent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 22:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Isn&#039;t Baroness Warsi not only the only ethnic minority Cabinet member, but the only ethnic minority Tory MP?  Am I wrong about that?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t Baroness Warsi not only the only ethnic minority Cabinet member, but the only ethnic minority Tory MP?  Am I wrong about that?</p>
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		<title>By: DexterHaven</title>
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		<dc:creator>DexterHaven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 22:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great post. The stuff about Jacqui Smith was particularly telling: why discuss her political legacy (introducing 42-day detention, or cracking down on prostitution), when we can snigger at her husband. Of course even when she was Home Secretary most of the popular press attention was on her cleavage (fun fact: if you type in &#039;Jacqui Smith&#039; to Google the first thing that comes up is &#039;Jacqui Smith cleavage&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. The stuff about Jacqui Smith was particularly telling: why discuss her political legacy (introducing 42-day detention, or cracking down on prostitution), when we can snigger at her husband. Of course even when she was Home Secretary most of the popular press attention was on her cleavage (fun fact: if you type in &#8216;Jacqui Smith&#8217; to Google the first thing that comes up is &#8216;Jacqui Smith cleavage&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: emilyanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>emilyanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 21:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also I meant to say this earlier but I feel compelled to point out in a devil&#039;s advocate kind of way that Tony Blair&#039;s first cabinet in 1997 had only one more woman than Camerons and no one from a diverse background.

This ignoring of everyone who isn&#039;t a white male of a certain class is not specific to the Tories and not new to British politics and I think it&#039;s important to address that because actually not one of the three major parties gives a stuff about women. The difference is that the Tories don&#039;t even bother pretending.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also I meant to say this earlier but I feel compelled to point out in a devil&#8217;s advocate kind of way that Tony Blair&#8217;s first cabinet in 1997 had only one more woman than Camerons and no one from a diverse background.</p>
<p>This ignoring of everyone who isn&#8217;t a white male of a certain class is not specific to the Tories and not new to British politics and I think it&#8217;s important to address that because actually not one of the three major parties gives a stuff about women. The difference is that the Tories don&#8217;t even bother pretending.</p>
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		<title>By: Alice Winfree Bowron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alice Winfree Bowron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 20:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And even in the case of a first-ever female appointment &#039;for&#039; Wales Cameron has shot himself in the foot; here is a copy/paste below from yesterday&#039;s BBConline article: 

&quot;Cardiff-born Mrs Gillan, 58, has served as shadow Welsh secretary since 2005 and will be the first woman in the job. 

Former Welsh Secretary, Peter Hain, congratulated the Chesham and Amersham MP but asked why none of the 11 Tory and Lib Dem MPs in Wales were suitable. 

Plaid Cymru said an appointment from outside Wales was a &#039;throwback&#039;. 

Mr Hain said the decision to appoint a Welsh Secretary from an English constituency &#039;will baffle and indeed anger many people in Wales&#039;. 

&#039;Far from representing the new politics that people want to see, this smacks of the bad old days.&#039; &quot;

And look at the photo for today&#039;s story on BBConline re: the first Cameron Cabinet meeting:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/default.stm

So many white boys at Cameron&#039;s table, literally - and so little true representative democracy. It is a DISGRACE.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And even in the case of a first-ever female appointment &#8216;for&#8217; Wales Cameron has shot himself in the foot; here is a copy/paste below from yesterday&#8217;s BBConline article: </p>
<p>&#8220;Cardiff-born Mrs Gillan, 58, has served as shadow Welsh secretary since 2005 and will be the first woman in the job. </p>
<p>Former Welsh Secretary, Peter Hain, congratulated the Chesham and Amersham MP but asked why none of the 11 Tory and Lib Dem MPs in Wales were suitable. </p>
<p>Plaid Cymru said an appointment from outside Wales was a &#8216;throwback&#8217;. </p>
<p>Mr Hain said the decision to appoint a Welsh Secretary from an English constituency &#8216;will baffle and indeed anger many people in Wales&#8217;. </p>
<p>&#8216;Far from representing the new politics that people want to see, this smacks of the bad old days.&#8217; &#8221;</p>
<p>And look at the photo for today&#8217;s story on BBConline re: the first Cameron Cabinet meeting:</p>
<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/default.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/default.stm</a></p>
<p>So many white boys at Cameron&#8217;s table, literally &#8211; and so little true representative democracy. It is a DISGRACE.</p>
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		<title>By: emilyanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>emilyanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 16:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also I see you linked to Katherine Viner&#039;s piece - I see what&#039;s she&#039;s trying to say but I think it&#039;s a really poor piece of journalism which ignores facts to point score. Your piece was much better, in my opinion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also I see you linked to Katherine Viner&#8217;s piece &#8211; I see what&#8217;s she&#8217;s trying to say but I think it&#8217;s a really poor piece of journalism which ignores facts to point score. Your piece was much better, in my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: emilyanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>emilyanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 15:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gherkinfiend - why hello my fellow life long Lib Dem voter - 18 bloody years I&#039;ve given those sods.

Anyway great piece - I wanted to add that Katherine Viner has a piece in the Guardian today which also managed to infuriate me. Although ostensibly on the same subject it&#039;s includes this par:

&quot;Those delectable wives did get noticed, of course. Sarah Brown, Samantha Cameron and Miriam González Durántez got a brilliant press – because they are quiet, good-looking, well-dressed and best of all, know their place: as wives and mothers, in support of their powerful men. Herding their beautiful families, looking lush, standing pregnant on the threshold of No 10 like the Virgin Mary in Renaissance blue. The wives were the Madonnas, the good women; the women MPs the bad. All were silenced.&quot;

Quite honestly I would love to know how Miriam Gonzalez Durantez, the head of international trade practice for one of the biggst multinational law firms in the UK and a woman who stated that she would not be campaigning as she had a job, feels about being forced into a box so that Viner can make her point.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gherkinfiend &#8211; why hello my fellow life long Lib Dem voter &#8211; 18 bloody years I&#8217;ve given those sods.</p>
<p>Anyway great piece &#8211; I wanted to add that Katherine Viner has a piece in the Guardian today which also managed to infuriate me. Although ostensibly on the same subject it&#8217;s includes this par:</p>
<p>&#8220;Those delectable wives did get noticed, of course. Sarah Brown, Samantha Cameron and Miriam González Durántez got a brilliant press – because they are quiet, good-looking, well-dressed and best of all, know their place: as wives and mothers, in support of their powerful men. Herding their beautiful families, looking lush, standing pregnant on the threshold of No 10 like the Virgin Mary in Renaissance blue. The wives were the Madonnas, the good women; the women MPs the bad. All were silenced.&#8221;</p>
<p>Quite honestly I would love to know how Miriam Gonzalez Durantez, the head of international trade practice for one of the biggst multinational law firms in the UK and a woman who stated that she would not be campaigning as she had a job, feels about being forced into a box so that Viner can make her point.</p>
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		<title>By: PhDork</title>
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		<dc:creator>PhDork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 15:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you, gherkinfiend:  great stuff.  My reading around/hearing about the election seemed so reductive:  COALITION GOVERNMENT!  BROWN OUT!  LADY CABINET MEMBER LIKES EXOTIC SHOES! that I didn&#039;t know what was really going on.  I can&#039;t say that my mind is any more at ease, but I don&#039;t feel like I&#039;m totally clueless, either.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, gherkinfiend:  great stuff.  My reading around/hearing about the election seemed so reductive:  COALITION GOVERNMENT!  BROWN OUT!  LADY CABINET MEMBER LIKES EXOTIC SHOES! that I didn&#8217;t know what was really going on.  I can&#8217;t say that my mind is any more at ease, but I don&#8217;t feel like I&#8217;m totally clueless, either.</p>
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