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All the skeptic ladies (all the skeptic ladies)

Posted by SarahMC in Thoughts, It's Science!, Religion, Sexism on Jul 8, 2010, 1:31pm | 54 comments

The world of active atheists, agnostics and skeptics is a testosterony place. By “active” I mean those who attend gatherings and conferences about skepticism. Some people I admire in the skeptics’ corner of the blogosphere have been talking about the dearth of women in the community and wondering why that might be.

The skeptic community exists within the wider community; it’s not immune from the patriarchal forces that result in disproportionate male representation in any other sphere (besides explicitly “female” ones). A lot of people in the skeptic community work in scientific fields, and most people working in the sciences are male. Women are punished more harshly than men for questioning religious dogma or coming out as disbelievers. They are entrusted with the religious indoctrination of their children, as well, and are considered bad mothers if they don’t at least take their kids to religious services.

Skeptifem posits that female skeptics are too busy.

They are disproportionately dealing with low pay and poverty, and with child and elder care. This means working more employment hours with less pay, and working for free much more often the rest of the time. They are volunteering. They typically don’t have time to sit around and ponder things like philosophy and science.

I think there’s something to that, of course. But crafting conventions are overflowing with women. And women participate in religious groups. Perhaps the tangible benefits women get from being active in the skeptic community are not great enough to make up for the sacrifices. I don’t know the precise answer(s).

But whilst perusing the comments on this post by the wonderful PZ Myers, I thought, “I don’t want to pay to hang out with (some of) these people either.” Skeptic men think of themselves as a highly enlightened bunch. They pat themselves on the back for not being sexist because god told them to be. No, they’re just sexist because science demands it. Having just finished reading The Mismeasure of Man, I’m even more, uh, skeptical, you might say, of claims regarding women’s alleged nature as compared to men’s. Maybe female skeptics don’t want to be treated like pieces of meat then lectured about powerful male hormones when they came to hear a lecture about atheism.

54 Responses to “All the skeptic ladies (all the skeptic ladies)”

  1. BeckySharper says:
    July 15, 2010 at 11:00 pm

    @FatSteve: Yeah, like I said, atheist leaders are douche-y, but not socio-politically powerful, at least not in the West these days. Communists and Marxists, as you may recall, have brutally persecuted and killed religious leaders and their congregations in the name of non-religion, for example, Jewish refusniks in the USSR, the Tibetan Buddhists in China, the Russian Orthodox in the USSR, Catholics in Vietnam and pretty much everyone of any religion in N. Korea. All those persecutions…because atheist leaders didn’t want any religion competing with their regimes for authority or attention.

  2. Fat Steve says:
    July 16, 2010 at 12:24 am

    @BeckySharper: I’m sorry but I disagree with almost everything you said. None of those people was killed ‘in the name of non-religion.’ They were killed in the name of power. Besides ,the term ‘atheist leaders’ in this context refers to people like Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris, etc, not to people like Fidel Castro and Kim Jong Il. Religious leaders are people like Pat Robertson, RIck Warren, the Pope, and Ayatollah Khomeini are a million times more douche-y than Hitchens, Dawkins, et al.

    That is- if you consider misogyny douche-y;

  3. BeckySharper says:
    July 16, 2010 at 8:05 am

    @FatSteve: They were killed in the name of power. Yes, exactly. Just like the people killed by religious warfare, which is equally about power and control. You’re pretending that atheists are all just intellectuals who never hurt a fly and willfully ignoring the atheist political regimes out there that use non-religion as a pretext to kill and oppress people whose religion they hate.

  4. aplastic says:
    July 24, 2010 at 7:35 pm

    “But crafting conventions are overflowing with women. And women participate in religious groups.”

    These women tend to be traditional women to begin with unlike skeptics and likely have men as the primary “breadwinners” in their households. Therefore the money issue does not affect them the same. Religious groups and crafting may be seen as “required” to them.

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