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	<title>Comments on: Guest Post: Mackey on the Australian Election</title>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 05:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have always, always voted greens first, then Labor, since I could vote.  This was the first election I was tempted not to, because I felt like more people might do what I was, and that perhaps Labor needed my support.

But my three issues of concern were queer rights (gay marriage), climate change and the ridiculous boat people stuff.  And Labor had very dissapointing policies on all of these.  It makes me angry when people say that this is a clear sign that the &#039;bloody coup&#039; (AAARGH) made people move away from Labor.  PERHAPS it&#039;s that Labor was moving away from their base and to the right?  And that made people on the left, rational people like myself who rationally care about issues of human rights, unable, in all good conscience, to support them?

No, it must be That Bitch Julia.

End of bitter rant.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always, always voted greens first, then Labor, since I could vote.  This was the first election I was tempted not to, because I felt like more people might do what I was, and that perhaps Labor needed my support.</p>
<p>But my three issues of concern were queer rights (gay marriage), climate change and the ridiculous boat people stuff.  And Labor had very dissapointing policies on all of these.  It makes me angry when people say that this is a clear sign that the &#8216;bloody coup&#8217; (AAARGH) made people move away from Labor.  PERHAPS it&#8217;s that Labor was moving away from their base and to the right?  And that made people on the left, rational people like myself who rationally care about issues of human rights, unable, in all good conscience, to support them?</p>
<p>No, it must be That Bitch Julia.</p>
<p>End of bitter rant.</p>
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		<title>By: Laurie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 11:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I forgot to mention Antony Green! I love him. You know how you watch people doing their job and you can just tell they LOVE it. So awesome!

I wonder though...what does he do when there is no election?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to mention Antony Green! I love him. You know how you watch people doing their job and you can just tell they LOVE it. So awesome!</p>
<p>I wonder though&#8230;what does he do when there is no election?</p>
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		<title>By: Laurie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 11:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess I am feeling a bit more excited about the possibilities right now. I think both major parties got the results they deserved. Australia decided - neither of you deserve this. 

I hope when the Labor party stop eating their young and playing the blame game they realise that abandoning the left of the party to gain the middle is a big mistake. Of course people who support the humane treatment of asylum seekers and refugees and gay marriage are going to go elsewhere.

I still really wish for a Labor led minority government. I think the independants are all worried about the NBN, education and health and considering it is a conservative party platform to cut costs or &#039;stop the waste&#039; it seems a better fit with Labor. Also given how they feel about the National party I don&#039;t think they are going to make it particularly easy for Tony to deal with them (or Julia for that matter). Tony Windsor and Rob Oakeshott are particularly well and plain spoken and Bob Katter welll....he is funny but I get the sense he might be a loose cannon.

I think it is exciting. I kinda wish to move away from the cult of personality type politics that it seems to be moving into. Additional checks and balances are always useful and both sides are now going to have to deal with the Greens holding the balance of power in the Senate anyway. I think Australia is moving forward but probably not in the way Julia or Tony thought it would.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I am feeling a bit more excited about the possibilities right now. I think both major parties got the results they deserved. Australia decided &#8211; neither of you deserve this. </p>
<p>I hope when the Labor party stop eating their young and playing the blame game they realise that abandoning the left of the party to gain the middle is a big mistake. Of course people who support the humane treatment of asylum seekers and refugees and gay marriage are going to go elsewhere.</p>
<p>I still really wish for a Labor led minority government. I think the independants are all worried about the NBN, education and health and considering it is a conservative party platform to cut costs or &#8216;stop the waste&#8217; it seems a better fit with Labor. Also given how they feel about the National party I don&#8217;t think they are going to make it particularly easy for Tony to deal with them (or Julia for that matter). Tony Windsor and Rob Oakeshott are particularly well and plain spoken and Bob Katter welll&#8230;.he is funny but I get the sense he might be a loose cannon.</p>
<p>I think it is exciting. I kinda wish to move away from the cult of personality type politics that it seems to be moving into. Additional checks and balances are always useful and both sides are now going to have to deal with the Greens holding the balance of power in the Senate anyway. I think Australia is moving forward but probably not in the way Julia or Tony thought it would.</p>
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		<title>By: June</title>
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		<dc:creator>June</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 09:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I might be wrong, but it does seem in Australia, that when things start going wrong politically, that lately, women have been called in as replacements in order to clean up the vast loads of shitty mess left behind.  It is seems to becoming a pattern.

Another example: Anna Bligh is now getting the blame for Queensland&#039;s mess- but in reality, she&#039;s still cleaning up the mess left behind by Peter Beattie.

NSW is in a similar position.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I might be wrong, but it does seem in Australia, that when things start going wrong politically, that lately, women have been called in as replacements in order to clean up the vast loads of shitty mess left behind.  It is seems to becoming a pattern.</p>
<p>Another example: Anna Bligh is now getting the blame for Queensland&#8217;s mess- but in reality, she&#8217;s still cleaning up the mess left behind by Peter Beattie.</p>
<p>NSW is in a similar position.</p>
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		<title>By: Madeleine Klaic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Madeleine Klaic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 08:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Completely agreed, posted about this just before on www.madeleineklaic.com

it&#039;s so infuriating to watch australian values swing further to the right.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Completely agreed, posted about this just before on <a href="http://www.madeleineklaic.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.madeleineklaic.com</a></p>
<p>it&#8217;s so infuriating to watch australian values swing further to the right.</p>
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		<title>By: wondering</title>
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		<dc:creator>wondering</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 05:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are there any parallels between the situation with Julia Gillard and Kim Campbell, Canada&#039;s short-lived female prime minister?

Ms Campbell won the leadership when Brian Mulrooney got dropkicked by his party when his approval ratings were at an all time low with an election leading up. The cynical of us believe that a woamn was chosen to lead the Progressive Conservatives in hopes of increasing the percentage of women who vote PC - this failed dismally. The party was  pretty much destroyed in the next election. Ms Campbell held the big seat for only a few months.

Mind you Canada has a history of that sort of thing - same thing happened to Rita Johnston when the Social Credit party booted Bill Vander Zalm from the Premiership of BC (conflict of interest scandal, low polls, and yes, looming election).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are there any parallels between the situation with Julia Gillard and Kim Campbell, Canada&#8217;s short-lived female prime minister?</p>
<p>Ms Campbell won the leadership when Brian Mulrooney got dropkicked by his party when his approval ratings were at an all time low with an election leading up. The cynical of us believe that a woamn was chosen to lead the Progressive Conservatives in hopes of increasing the percentage of women who vote PC &#8211; this failed dismally. The party was  pretty much destroyed in the next election. Ms Campbell held the big seat for only a few months.</p>
<p>Mind you Canada has a history of that sort of thing &#8211; same thing happened to Rita Johnston when the Social Credit party booted Bill Vander Zalm from the Premiership of BC (conflict of interest scandal, low polls, and yes, looming election).</p>
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		<title>By: phryne.f</title>
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		<dc:creator>phryne.f</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 03:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It has been a fascinating 36 hours here in Australia! While i would have liked a clear Gillard-led ALP victory, I don&#039;t think this is as depressing an outcome as I initially feared.

The fact that the Greens party split the ALP vote will hopefully indicate to the ALP that they have to stop pandering to the middle and try and reconnect with their original left wing past. 

Abbott did not win over all of Australia, in South Australia, Victoria and Tasmania there was a swing to the ALP. So as much as he will try and spin it as a Coalition victory, it is in reality far from it.

It will be very interesting to see where the independents will take us in the next couple of weeks! They seem to be indicating that a stable, ethical government is what they are aiming for, which is difficult to disagree with.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has been a fascinating 36 hours here in Australia! While i would have liked a clear Gillard-led ALP victory, I don&#8217;t think this is as depressing an outcome as I initially feared.</p>
<p>The fact that the Greens party split the ALP vote will hopefully indicate to the ALP that they have to stop pandering to the middle and try and reconnect with their original left wing past. </p>
<p>Abbott did not win over all of Australia, in South Australia, Victoria and Tasmania there was a swing to the ALP. So as much as he will try and spin it as a Coalition victory, it is in reality far from it.</p>
<p>It will be very interesting to see where the independents will take us in the next couple of weeks! They seem to be indicating that a stable, ethical government is what they are aiming for, which is difficult to disagree with.</p>
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		<title>By: Mackey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mackey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 01:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Skip - glad another, I assume Australian, has confirmed the national past-time of swooning over Antony Green.. bluemilk&#039;s post also summed up what I thought as well..

in part, I think the Chaser&#039;s song sums up how I felt about the election..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV-inAzEleE]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Skip &#8211; glad another, I assume Australian, has confirmed the national past-time of swooning over Antony Green.. bluemilk&#8217;s post also summed up what I thought as well..</p>
<p>in part, I think the Chaser&#8217;s song sums up how I felt about the election..<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV-inAzEleE" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV-inAzEleE</a></p>
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		<title>By: SkipToMyLou</title>
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		<dc:creator>SkipToMyLou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Antony Green! In the midst of the sadness, a beacon of light. Love him and his nerdy, nerdy ways. I was desperate for Gillard to win. Desperate moreso for her to act like the progressive feminist that I *know* deep in her heart, she is. It disappointment me that she has made so many conservative policy statements: about tax, about interest rates, about gay marriage, about parental leave. Blogger Blue Milk said everything I would want to say about this election, and her commenters are spot on, too: http://bluemilk.wordpress.com/2010/08/20/undecided-voters-and-why-i-hate-you/

Also, via Leslie Cannold 9http://www.facebook.com/?ref=logo#!/profile.php?id=592994207&amp;v=info) the parliamentary method by which a government will be formed. Hint! By our female Governor General, Quentin Bryce: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/governor-generals-job-to-choose-next-leader/story-fn59niix-1225908600975

Sorry for all the links. Forgotten how to embed, feel free to fix.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Antony Green! In the midst of the sadness, a beacon of light. Love him and his nerdy, nerdy ways. I was desperate for Gillard to win. Desperate moreso for her to act like the progressive feminist that I *know* deep in her heart, she is. It disappointment me that she has made so many conservative policy statements: about tax, about interest rates, about gay marriage, about parental leave. Blogger Blue Milk said everything I would want to say about this election, and her commenters are spot on, too: <a href="http://bluemilk.wordpress.com/2010/08/20/undecided-voters-and-why-i-hate-you/" rel="nofollow">http://bluemilk.wordpress.com/2010/08/20/undecided-voters-and-why-i-hate-you/</a></p>
<p>Also, via Leslie Cannold 9http://www.facebook.com/?ref=logo#!/profile.php?id=592994207&amp;v=info) the parliamentary method by which a government will be formed. Hint! By our female Governor General, Quentin Bryce: <a href="http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/governor-generals-job-to-choose-next-leader/story-fn59niix-1225908600975" rel="nofollow">http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/governor-generals-job-to-choose-next-leader/story-fn59niix-1225908600975</a></p>
<p>Sorry for all the links. Forgotten how to embed, feel free to fix.</p>
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		<title>By: Mackey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mackey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2010 21:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@BearDown - the emissions trading scheme was left to falter and Rudd, I think, needed an issue to show leadership. With a recent whole tax system review (Henry Review), Rudd chose to take on the mining companies by changing how resources are taxed. There was some speculation that it was the mining companies or banks.

In part I think it was overreach, and I think in a war of advertising attrition, that the coffers the mining lobby group had to fight the proposed changes outweighed any federal government spend. 
Also, the government ads defending its position bypassed the usual probit checks that Labor put in place for govt advertising.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@BearDown &#8211; the emissions trading scheme was left to falter and Rudd, I think, needed an issue to show leadership. With a recent whole tax system review (Henry Review), Rudd chose to take on the mining companies by changing how resources are taxed. There was some speculation that it was the mining companies or banks.</p>
<p>In part I think it was overreach, and I think in a war of advertising attrition, that the coffers the mining lobby group had to fight the proposed changes outweighed any federal government spend.<br />
Also, the government ads defending its position bypassed the usual probit checks that Labor put in place for govt advertising.</p>
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