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	<title>Comments on: Prof. Susurro on Antoine Dodson</title>
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		<title>By: Sally</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2010/09/05/on-feminism-liberals-black-folks-and-antione-dodson-%c2%ab-like-a-whisper/comment-page-1/#comment-69674</link>
		<dc:creator>Sally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2011 17:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is it far too generous to assume there are feminists who are laughing *with* Dodson? His passionate contempt for the scum who attempted to rape his sister was warranted, brilliant, and almost hilariously well expressed. He openly mocks the would-be rapist several times both in the remix and the original interview and the &quot;we will find you&quot; chorus is very much anti-rape and anti-rapist. It&#039;s possible to read it so that the victim isn&#039;t being laughed at, and I do think laughter at the stupidity and moral vacuity of rapists can be hugely empowering - but not, of course, laughter about rape.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it far too generous to assume there are feminists who are laughing *with* Dodson? His passionate contempt for the scum who attempted to rape his sister was warranted, brilliant, and almost hilariously well expressed. He openly mocks the would-be rapist several times both in the remix and the original interview and the &#8220;we will find you&#8221; chorus is very much anti-rape and anti-rapist. It&#8217;s possible to read it so that the victim isn&#8217;t being laughed at, and I do think laughter at the stupidity and moral vacuity of rapists can be hugely empowering &#8211; but not, of course, laughter about rape.</p>
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		<title>By: aspiringexpatriate</title>
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		<dc:creator>aspiringexpatriate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 23:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@JD Regent: Thanks for the benefit of the doubt, and I like to think the source of all comedy is &quot;legitimate and non-patronizing joy in the variety of human expression,&quot; except that whenever you laugh at someone, it does tend to be patronizing, even if it is a legitimate response to the variety of human expression.

(And I&#039;m going to have to steal this phrasology [because if I use words like phrasology, you know I need more better ways to talk.])]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@JD Regent: Thanks for the benefit of the doubt, and I like to think the source of all comedy is &#8220;legitimate and non-patronizing joy in the variety of human expression,&#8221; except that whenever you laugh at someone, it does tend to be patronizing, even if it is a legitimate response to the variety of human expression.</p>
<p>(And I&#8217;m going to have to steal this phrasology [because if I use words like phrasology, you know I need more better ways to talk.])</p>
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		<title>By: J.D.Regent</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.D.Regent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 21:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[AE, I don&#039;t know exactly what remix you are talking about, but I guess the question might be if you aren&#039;t laughing at the rape part, maybe you are laughing at some class or race issue, although I also leave room for legitimate and non-patronizing joy in the variety of human expression, which is where I assume your laughter was coming from.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AE, I don&#8217;t know exactly what remix you are talking about, but I guess the question might be if you aren&#8217;t laughing at the rape part, maybe you are laughing at some class or race issue, although I also leave room for legitimate and non-patronizing joy in the variety of human expression, which is where I assume your laughter was coming from.</p>
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		<title>By: aspiringexpatriate</title>
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		<dc:creator>aspiringexpatriate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 18:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[compared to the average YouTube viewer.

Yeah. I don&#039;t know what to say about them.

I pride myself on being honest, so here goes. I saw the auto-tuned remix, and I laughed; though it definitely wasn&#039;t as infectious as the friends who showed me thought. Then we watched the raw news report, and the main thing I gleaned from that was...the forensics team was one guy with a walkie talkie? In what little defense of the remixers as I can muster, from what I remember, they went out of their way to remove references to rape. Conceivably because they would agree that rape isn&#039;t funny. Now, is taking it out of context what makes it funny? Or is removing the context just another horrible example of our incessant demand for more shocking dehumanisation of anyone other than ourselves?

I don&#039;t know. Rape is not funny, but much humour can be derived from situations which are otherwise tragic. For example what That Was The Week That Was did in response to the civil rights movement. (I can&#039;t find a useful link.) Not to say that bedroom intruder is satire, but it is something of and for the time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>compared to the average YouTube viewer.</p>
<p>Yeah. I don&#8217;t know what to say about them.</p>
<p>I pride myself on being honest, so here goes. I saw the auto-tuned remix, and I laughed; though it definitely wasn&#8217;t as infectious as the friends who showed me thought. Then we watched the raw news report, and the main thing I gleaned from that was&#8230;the forensics team was one guy with a walkie talkie? In what little defense of the remixers as I can muster, from what I remember, they went out of their way to remove references to rape. Conceivably because they would agree that rape isn&#8217;t funny. Now, is taking it out of context what makes it funny? Or is removing the context just another horrible example of our incessant demand for more shocking dehumanisation of anyone other than ourselves?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know. Rape is not funny, but much humour can be derived from situations which are otherwise tragic. For example what That Was The Week That Was did in response to the civil rights movement. (I can&#8217;t find a useful link.) Not to say that bedroom intruder is satire, but it is something of and for the time.</p>
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		<title>By: J.D.Regent</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.D.Regent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 16:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[bluebears -- love that he turned it around and refused to be revictimized.  I think he really took control of the narrative and respect him a ton for it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bluebears &#8212; love that he turned it around and refused to be revictimized.  I think he really took control of the narrative and respect him a ton for it.</p>
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		<title>By: J.D.Regent</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.D.Regent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 16:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bizarre to me that this incident, and Dodson&#039;s reaction, were funny to anyone, anywhere.  It was serious and Dodson&#039;s outrage warranted and proportionate -- for once!  I did notice the erasure of the victim but considered that it may have been her own choice to avoid the limelight given what she&#039;d been through.  I appreciated that there was an element of genuine admiration and hero worship to the video making the rounds, but it is always hard for me to read where peoples&#039; reactions are coming from, because I am operating from a pretty idiosyncratic perspective, it seems, compared to the average YouTube viewer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bizarre to me that this incident, and Dodson&#8217;s reaction, were funny to anyone, anywhere.  It was serious and Dodson&#8217;s outrage warranted and proportionate &#8212; for once!  I did notice the erasure of the victim but considered that it may have been her own choice to avoid the limelight given what she&#8217;d been through.  I appreciated that there was an element of genuine admiration and hero worship to the video making the rounds, but it is always hard for me to read where peoples&#8217; reactions are coming from, because I am operating from a pretty idiosyncratic perspective, it seems, compared to the average YouTube viewer.</p>
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		<title>By: bluebears</title>
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		<dc:creator>bluebears</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 22:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have to say I never even thought twice about his outburst (except: he seems fed up who could blame him?) until it started making the internet rounds as &quot;hilarious.&quot;

However a question. What of the fact that Antoine Dodson himself has been able to parlay this internet fame into a way to make money? I find it hard to begrudge him (and his family) that, so perhaps a small silver lining?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say I never even thought twice about his outburst (except: he seems fed up who could blame him?) until it started making the internet rounds as &#8220;hilarious.&#8221;</p>
<p>However a question. What of the fact that Antoine Dodson himself has been able to parlay this internet fame into a way to make money? I find it hard to begrudge him (and his family) that, so perhaps a small silver lining?</p>
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		<title>By: BeckySharper</title>
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		<dc:creator>BeckySharper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 21:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The mocking of Antoine Dodson really set my teeth on edge...for all the reasons Prof Susurro mentions but because, first and foremost, RAPE IS NOT FUNNY.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The mocking of Antoine Dodson really set my teeth on edge&#8230;for all the reasons Prof Susurro mentions but because, first and foremost, RAPE IS NOT FUNNY.</p>
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		<title>By: mischiefmanager</title>
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		<dc:creator>mischiefmanager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 20:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This whole business has escaped my notice.  What an ugly mess.

It&#039;s been clear to me for a long time that mainstream feminist groups have a very hard time seeing past their own immediate interests.  Granted, equal pay, family leave, workplace harassment, and so forth are problems that affect all women.  But these groups are run by upper class, white, educated, professional women, and those are the women about whom they are most concerned.  We owe these groups a lot.  But I have never understood why it&#039;s been so hard for them to extent their reach to women unlike themselves-women of color and poor or working class women in particular.  It should be a mark of shame to NOW, Feminist Majority, and others that many black women have rejected the feminist label altogether.

If the victim&#039;s brother was the only one who cared enough to speak up for her, calling that patriarchal behavior is extraordinarily insulting and insensitive.  Good for him.  And for shame, white hipsters.  For shame.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This whole business has escaped my notice.  What an ugly mess.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been clear to me for a long time that mainstream feminist groups have a very hard time seeing past their own immediate interests.  Granted, equal pay, family leave, workplace harassment, and so forth are problems that affect all women.  But these groups are run by upper class, white, educated, professional women, and those are the women about whom they are most concerned.  We owe these groups a lot.  But I have never understood why it&#8217;s been so hard for them to extent their reach to women unlike themselves-women of color and poor or working class women in particular.  It should be a mark of shame to NOW, Feminist Majority, and others that many black women have rejected the feminist label altogether.</p>
<p>If the victim&#8217;s brother was the only one who cared enough to speak up for her, calling that patriarchal behavior is extraordinarily insulting and insensitive.  Good for him.  And for shame, white hipsters.  For shame.</p>
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		<title>By: rodriguez</title>
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		<dc:creator>rodriguez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 18:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[great post]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great post</p>
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