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	<title>Comments on: On Dying and Passing Away: A Rant</title>
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		<title>By: eilish</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2010/09/08/on-dying-and-passing-away-a-rant/comment-page-1/#comment-33982</link>
		<dc:creator>eilish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 03:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My favourite euphemism for death is &quot;popped her clogs&quot;. I tend to not use it when referencing the death of someone I know, though. Not very sensitive. 

Death is confronting. It&#039;s scary. It&#039;s still taboo in many cultures. That&#039;s why people use euphemisms. We fear death, and the pain and loss it causes to the living and the dead. Our cultures all have death rituals and rules about showing respect for corpses. It is part ignorance, part respect for the spiritual.  

Euphemisms for death might shit you, especially when you are in pain. It&#039;s hard to be generous and tolerant of others&#039; failings when you are suffering. 

People using euphemisms are avoiding dealing with the reality of death: that&#039;s probably because we are deeply uncertain of what is the right thing to do. There is no one right way: what comforts one person irritates another. It&#039;s a deeply difficult thing, and has been that way for a very long time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favourite euphemism for death is &#8220;popped her clogs&#8221;. I tend to not use it when referencing the death of someone I know, though. Not very sensitive. </p>
<p>Death is confronting. It&#8217;s scary. It&#8217;s still taboo in many cultures. That&#8217;s why people use euphemisms. We fear death, and the pain and loss it causes to the living and the dead. Our cultures all have death rituals and rules about showing respect for corpses. It is part ignorance, part respect for the spiritual.  </p>
<p>Euphemisms for death might shit you, especially when you are in pain. It&#8217;s hard to be generous and tolerant of others&#8217; failings when you are suffering. </p>
<p>People using euphemisms are avoiding dealing with the reality of death: that&#8217;s probably because we are deeply uncertain of what is the right thing to do. There is no one right way: what comforts one person irritates another. It&#8217;s a deeply difficult thing, and has been that way for a very long time.</p>
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		<title>By: AmBam</title>
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		<dc:creator>AmBam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Condolences to Becky and all the others who have mentioned losing loved ones. I HATE &quot;passed away&quot; - maybe it&#039;s my family&#039;s love of morbid details but I hate the vague reference. As I&#039;ve mentioned before, my older brother died in an explosion in Iraq. No, I don&#039;t feel that is aptly described as &quot;passing away&quot; or even &quot;dieing.&quot;  I usually say &quot;my brother was killed&quot; but on occasion my overly blunt side takes over and I will say things like &quot;since my brother got himself exploded.&quot; I figure I&#039;ve got enough to deal with in the mourning process without worrying about how uncomfortable my grief makes others.

I&#039;m a member of a Facebook group dedicated to my high school&#039;s deceased alumni. A woman I went to school with from K-12 had died and as she was only 25 or so, several folks were asking what happened. Her cousin answered, &quot;The Lord saw fit to take her.&quot; WTF? That&#039;s not an answer. 25 yr old women don&#039;t just get &quot;taken by the Lord,&quot; they die in accidents or of illnesses with names. GRRR!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Condolences to Becky and all the others who have mentioned losing loved ones. I HATE &#8220;passed away&#8221; &#8211; maybe it&#8217;s my family&#8217;s love of morbid details but I hate the vague reference. As I&#8217;ve mentioned before, my older brother died in an explosion in Iraq. No, I don&#8217;t feel that is aptly described as &#8220;passing away&#8221; or even &#8220;dieing.&#8221;  I usually say &#8220;my brother was killed&#8221; but on occasion my overly blunt side takes over and I will say things like &#8220;since my brother got himself exploded.&#8221; I figure I&#8217;ve got enough to deal with in the mourning process without worrying about how uncomfortable my grief makes others.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a member of a Facebook group dedicated to my high school&#8217;s deceased alumni. A woman I went to school with from K-12 had died and as she was only 25 or so, several folks were asking what happened. Her cousin answered, &#8220;The Lord saw fit to take her.&#8221; WTF? That&#8217;s not an answer. 25 yr old women don&#8217;t just get &#8220;taken by the Lord,&#8221; they die in accidents or of illnesses with names. GRRR!</p>
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		<title>By: The Oppression of Euphemism - The Pursuit of Harpyness</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Oppression of Euphemism - The Pursuit of Harpyness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 13:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] wanted to award a special Harpy Gold Star to Jenna, for her comment in the thread about dying vs. passing away. Jenna wrote: I too am southern and have experienced the oppression [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] wanted to award a special Harpy Gold Star to Jenna, for her comment in the thread about dying vs. passing away. Jenna wrote: I too am southern and have experienced the oppression [...]</p>
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		<title>By: BeckySharper</title>
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		<dc:creator>BeckySharper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 15:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Jenna: I love love LOVE &quot;the oppression of euphemism.&quot; It&#039;s such a part of Southern culture and it&#039;s one I&#039;ve always chafed against. I may use that as the basis for another post, so thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jenna: I love love LOVE &#8220;the oppression of euphemism.&#8221; It&#8217;s such a part of Southern culture and it&#8217;s one I&#8217;ve always chafed against. I may use that as the basis for another post, so thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Jenna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 15:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you SO MUCH for saying this. I have recently experienced some deaths in the family and I hated the euphemisms.....passed, in the arms of Jesus now, gone on, no longer with us.....I just stated it plain. He/She died. I too am southern and have experienced the oppression of the euphemism all my life. The expressions for death are just the tip of the iceberg.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you SO MUCH for saying this. I have recently experienced some deaths in the family and I hated the euphemisms&#8230;..passed, in the arms of Jesus now, gone on, no longer with us&#8230;..I just stated it plain. He/She died. I too am southern and have experienced the oppression of the euphemism all my life. The expressions for death are just the tip of the iceberg.</p>
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		<title>By: Mackey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mackey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2010 21:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Matilda and Becky - thanks for saying that.. the significant person in your life is dead and has died.. 
I got funny looks from close friends and family when I would articulate similar feelings when a family member (one of my brothers) died.. even with a coroner&#039;s inquest, there was still the white washing - I felt angry that there wasn&#039;t a recognition of how he died by some in my close circles.. he didn&#039;t pass away,  he died.. and there was nothing peaceful about it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Matilda and Becky &#8211; thanks for saying that.. the significant person in your life is dead and has died..<br />
I got funny looks from close friends and family when I would articulate similar feelings when a family member (one of my brothers) died.. even with a coroner&#8217;s inquest, there was still the white washing &#8211; I felt angry that there wasn&#8217;t a recognition of how he died by some in my close circles.. he didn&#8217;t pass away,  he died.. and there was nothing peaceful about it!</p>
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		<title>By: BeckySharper</title>
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		<dc:creator>BeckySharper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Sep 2010 20:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Matilda: I&#039;m so, so sorry. What a horrible thing to live through. I would have totally given you a standing ovation for that rant, though.  Even awful situations have to be handled with honesty and truth. When someone dies violently, I think there are even more attempts to whitewash the death with really euphemistic language because people are so upset and uncomfortable, and don&#039;t know how to discuss it, particularly with the surviving family.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Matilda: I&#8217;m so, so sorry. What a horrible thing to live through. I would have totally given you a standing ovation for that rant, though.  Even awful situations have to be handled with honesty and truth. When someone dies violently, I think there are even more attempts to whitewash the death with really euphemistic language because people are so upset and uncomfortable, and don&#8217;t know how to discuss it, particularly with the surviving family.</p>
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		<title>By: Matilda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matilda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Sep 2010 13:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry for the shitty year Becky and to all whose families have been visited by death. Death sucks in all kinds of unique and yet horrifyingly similar ways.

My Mum&#039;s violent death a few years ago was my first (and still only) experience of a loved one&#039;s death and I loathed all the &quot;passed away&quot; euphemisms but felt so guilty about it.  That I wasn&#039;t doing death right or something.

I reached breaking point after a week of seething over insipid remarks and fumed at my sister-in-law (the worst and repeated offender despite my other sisters&#039; requests for her not to speak for us):

&quot;My Mum hasn&#039;t gone or passed away. Mum was killed, Mum died horribly and it wasn&#039;t her fucking time to go so stop smothering us with your shitty platitudes.&quot;

And that&#039;s what it felt like, that our raging, noisy, heartfelt, violent grief was being smothered and silenced. That the way we needed to respond to such a horrible, gruesome and sudden death was somehow inappropriate, disproportionate, improper. Instead we needed to box our grief up all neatly and quietly, tied in a bow marked &quot;Mum passed away&quot; and present ourselves meekly, passively for the comfort of others.

@JDR, PhDork and mischiefmanager: I kinda like lost too but the direct &quot;I lost my xyz&quot; (particularly about a parent) triggers irreverent Oscar Wilde associations so I can&#039;t say this without feeling slightly ridiculous/false.

I do talk about Mum&#039;s death as a loss though.  Just not that I &quot;lost&quot; her.  I think of Mum, her touch, her hugs, her smell, her smile, her scowl, her words, her wit, her voice, as being &quot;lost to me&quot;. Which does all kinda make it about me JDR but that is valid and real because death is also experienced by the living.

But what actually happened to Mum? Mum didn&#039;t get lost. Mum didn&#039;t pass on or pass or go away.  Mum died. Mum is dead.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the shitty year Becky and to all whose families have been visited by death. Death sucks in all kinds of unique and yet horrifyingly similar ways.</p>
<p>My Mum&#8217;s violent death a few years ago was my first (and still only) experience of a loved one&#8217;s death and I loathed all the &#8220;passed away&#8221; euphemisms but felt so guilty about it.  That I wasn&#8217;t doing death right or something.</p>
<p>I reached breaking point after a week of seething over insipid remarks and fumed at my sister-in-law (the worst and repeated offender despite my other sisters&#8217; requests for her not to speak for us):</p>
<p>&#8220;My Mum hasn&#8217;t gone or passed away. Mum was killed, Mum died horribly and it wasn&#8217;t her fucking time to go so stop smothering us with your shitty platitudes.&#8221;</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s what it felt like, that our raging, noisy, heartfelt, violent grief was being smothered and silenced. That the way we needed to respond to such a horrible, gruesome and sudden death was somehow inappropriate, disproportionate, improper. Instead we needed to box our grief up all neatly and quietly, tied in a bow marked &#8220;Mum passed away&#8221; and present ourselves meekly, passively for the comfort of others.</p>
<p>@JDR, PhDork and mischiefmanager: I kinda like lost too but the direct &#8220;I lost my xyz&#8221; (particularly about a parent) triggers irreverent Oscar Wilde associations so I can&#8217;t say this without feeling slightly ridiculous/false.</p>
<p>I do talk about Mum&#8217;s death as a loss though.  Just not that I &#8220;lost&#8221; her.  I think of Mum, her touch, her hugs, her smell, her smile, her scowl, her words, her wit, her voice, as being &#8220;lost to me&#8221;. Which does all kinda make it about me JDR but that is valid and real because death is also experienced by the living.</p>
<p>But what actually happened to Mum? Mum didn&#8217;t get lost. Mum didn&#8217;t pass on or pass or go away.  Mum died. Mum is dead.</p>
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		<title>By: PhDork</title>
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		<dc:creator>PhDork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 01:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PetiteXL, for me, &quot;passed away&quot; is too airy-fairy, especially when you&#039;ve witnessed someone&#039;s decline, or their actual death.  &quot;Passing&quot; or &quot;slipping away&quot; is something devoutly to be wished, as Becky says,but not common, I think. 

But I think you&#039;re right that the monosyllables and hard D sounds do make it seem harsher than the longer, softer -ss sounds.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PetiteXL, for me, &#8220;passed away&#8221; is too airy-fairy, especially when you&#8217;ve witnessed someone&#8217;s decline, or their actual death.  &#8220;Passing&#8221; or &#8220;slipping away&#8221; is something devoutly to be wished, as Becky says,but not common, I think. </p>
<p>But I think you&#8217;re right that the monosyllables and hard D sounds do make it seem harsher than the longer, softer -ss sounds.</p>
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		<title>By: mischiefmanager</title>
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		<dc:creator>mischiefmanager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 00:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like lost as well.  The only problem is that it shifts the focus to the speaker:  I lost so and so, rather than so and so died.  For someone you loved, it is a loss, but when you&#039;re talking about a death that&#039;s not always the case.  

And Dorkie, you&#039;re right.  It&#039;s equally important to let the mourner know that if and when s/he wants to talk, you&#039;re available to listen.  You still have to be careful to avoid hurtful cliches, though.  It&#039;s never okay to say, for instance, &quot;It&#039;s better this way.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like lost as well.  The only problem is that it shifts the focus to the speaker:  I lost so and so, rather than so and so died.  For someone you loved, it is a loss, but when you&#8217;re talking about a death that&#8217;s not always the case.  </p>
<p>And Dorkie, you&#8217;re right.  It&#8217;s equally important to let the mourner know that if and when s/he wants to talk, you&#8217;re available to listen.  You still have to be careful to avoid hurtful cliches, though.  It&#8217;s never okay to say, for instance, &#8220;It&#8217;s better this way.&#8221;</p>
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