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		<title>By: PhDork</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2010/12/13/on-elf-work/comment-page-1/#comment-45360</link>
		<dc:creator>PhDork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2010 00:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nepenthe, I wanna buy you a drink, and then find you a new, non-crappy roommate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nepenthe, I wanna buy you a drink, and then find you a new, non-crappy roommate.</p>
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		<title>By: Mackey</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2010/12/13/on-elf-work/comment-page-1/#comment-43858</link>
		<dc:creator>Mackey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 01:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Nepenthe - me too!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nepenthe &#8211; me too!</p>
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		<title>By: Nepenthe</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2010/12/13/on-elf-work/comment-page-1/#comment-43368</link>
		<dc:creator>Nepenthe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 02:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why would the holidays be any different than any other time of year? Women get stuck doing all the shitty work. Men enjoy the product of their associated women&#039;s unpaid and unacknowledged work. On occasion, men do something and this is considered fracking amazing: see the Independence Day barbeque. 

And god help us all if the woman in charge of the woman&#039;s work slacks off a little, because then Timmy and Suzie won&#039;t get presents this Christmas &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; the dishes will stay unwashed and it certainly won&#039;t be the fault of the other responsible adult in the house (assuming a hetero couple). No wonder gay couples get asked &quot;Who&#039;s the woman?&quot; It&#039;s not just about penetration; it&#039;s astonishment that the apartment hasn&#039;t completely been given over to mice and cockroaches. 

/rant brought on by having to clean the apartment for my male roommate who doesn&#039;t even bother to do his own dishes and insists that I just have to nag him more and the prospect of going home tomorrow where my father acts like he is completely incapable of making any sort of adult action although being a senior whoziwhat of a large company and my mother who encourages this sort of behavior from him and fuck I just hate the patriarchy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would the holidays be any different than any other time of year? Women get stuck doing all the shitty work. Men enjoy the product of their associated women&#8217;s unpaid and unacknowledged work. On occasion, men do something and this is considered fracking amazing: see the Independence Day barbeque. </p>
<p>And god help us all if the woman in charge of the woman&#8217;s work slacks off a little, because then Timmy and Suzie won&#8217;t get presents this Christmas <i>and</i> the dishes will stay unwashed and it certainly won&#8217;t be the fault of the other responsible adult in the house (assuming a hetero couple). No wonder gay couples get asked &#8220;Who&#8217;s the woman?&#8221; It&#8217;s not just about penetration; it&#8217;s astonishment that the apartment hasn&#8217;t completely been given over to mice and cockroaches. </p>
<p>/rant brought on by having to clean the apartment for my male roommate who doesn&#8217;t even bother to do his own dishes and insists that I just have to nag him more and the prospect of going home tomorrow where my father acts like he is completely incapable of making any sort of adult action although being a senior whoziwhat of a large company and my mother who encourages this sort of behavior from him and fuck I just hate the patriarchy</p>
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		<title>By: wondering</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2010/12/13/on-elf-work/comment-page-1/#comment-43308</link>
		<dc:creator>wondering</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 23:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I do not do Christmas cards or letters. I don&#039;t care what the tradition is. I DON&#039;T HAVE TIME. I can now claim that I&#039;m being green in my refusal but really, it&#039;s because I&#039;ve drawn the line that says cards aren&#039;t important. Neither are thank you cards/letters. I will phone gift givers and say thank you but they will not get anything handwritten from me. If that means they choose not to give me a gift as a result, I&#039;m cool with that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not do Christmas cards or letters. I don&#8217;t care what the tradition is. I DON&#8217;T HAVE TIME. I can now claim that I&#8217;m being green in my refusal but really, it&#8217;s because I&#8217;ve drawn the line that says cards aren&#8217;t important. Neither are thank you cards/letters. I will phone gift givers and say thank you but they will not get anything handwritten from me. If that means they choose not to give me a gift as a result, I&#8217;m cool with that.</p>
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		<title>By: Es</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2010/12/13/on-elf-work/comment-page-1/#comment-42918</link>
		<dc:creator>Es</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 14:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[(PS: I&#039;m not nostalgic for Buffy because the DVDs are on pretty much constant rotation, between Angel, Firefly, Veronica Mars and the X-Files.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(PS: I&#8217;m not nostalgic for Buffy because the DVDs are on pretty much constant rotation, between Angel, Firefly, Veronica Mars and the X-Files.)</p>
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		<title>By: Es</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2010/12/13/on-elf-work/comment-page-1/#comment-42905</link>
		<dc:creator>Es</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 13:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This kind of thing - not limited to Christmas, but through the year - was one of the biggest issues in the 10-year relationship with my ex. He was always perfectly happy to do stuff when asked - but he always had to be asked, and the mental effort of organising the household was always, in his head, my job. This was fine when I wasn&#039;t working (when we moved in together I left my job and relocated, so was out of work and he was supporting me for a while until I found a job) but it somehow continued when we were both working full time and was the cause of a lot of friction - especially when he called me boring because I had no mental energy left for fun.

And yes, I always seemed to be in charge of present buying (birthday and Christmas) for his family. I bitched (on the principle of the thing) but did it, because 1) I like choosing and buying thoughtful gifts, and 2) as commented above, I knew them well enough that they were my friends too, and I didn&#039;t want them disappointed with crappy last-minute gifts.

I kind of blame his mother, who is a lovely woman who I was great friends with and stayed friends with - she treated my ex and his sister very differently with regard to expectations of general competence and getting-shit-done.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This kind of thing &#8211; not limited to Christmas, but through the year &#8211; was one of the biggest issues in the 10-year relationship with my ex. He was always perfectly happy to do stuff when asked &#8211; but he always had to be asked, and the mental effort of organising the household was always, in his head, my job. This was fine when I wasn&#8217;t working (when we moved in together I left my job and relocated, so was out of work and he was supporting me for a while until I found a job) but it somehow continued when we were both working full time and was the cause of a lot of friction &#8211; especially when he called me boring because I had no mental energy left for fun.</p>
<p>And yes, I always seemed to be in charge of present buying (birthday and Christmas) for his family. I bitched (on the principle of the thing) but did it, because 1) I like choosing and buying thoughtful gifts, and 2) as commented above, I knew them well enough that they were my friends too, and I didn&#8217;t want them disappointed with crappy last-minute gifts.</p>
<p>I kind of blame his mother, who is a lovely woman who I was great friends with and stayed friends with &#8211; she treated my ex and his sister very differently with regard to expectations of general competence and getting-shit-done.</p>
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		<title>By: TMae</title>
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		<dc:creator>TMae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 02:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We have a pretty good division of labor around the holidays. I send cards to people I want to send them to, he sends them to people he wants to send them to. I went so far as to get a new address book that doesn&#039;t contain the addresses of any of &quot;his&quot; people. So he also maintains contact information for them.  I do write his name on the cards I send, provided the people I&#039;m sending them to know him. He does the same for me.

He is responsible for gifts for his family, and for choosing and procuring some gifts for our son. I always HATED opening gifts that my step-dad was seeing for the very first time, even though they were ostensibly from him. And he will wrap those gifts, and likely some that I chose and purchased. 

I have been adamant that I am not the card-holiday-gift-birthday-appointment-secretary for our family. Of course, my side of the family is the bigger-there&#039;s-always-a-damn-birthday-around-the-corner side, so I keep track of most stuff by default.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have a pretty good division of labor around the holidays. I send cards to people I want to send them to, he sends them to people he wants to send them to. I went so far as to get a new address book that doesn&#8217;t contain the addresses of any of &#8220;his&#8221; people. So he also maintains contact information for them.  I do write his name on the cards I send, provided the people I&#8217;m sending them to know him. He does the same for me.</p>
<p>He is responsible for gifts for his family, and for choosing and procuring some gifts for our son. I always HATED opening gifts that my step-dad was seeing for the very first time, even though they were ostensibly from him. And he will wrap those gifts, and likely some that I chose and purchased. </p>
<p>I have been adamant that I am not the card-holiday-gift-birthday-appointment-secretary for our family. Of course, my side of the family is the bigger-there&#8217;s-always-a-damn-birthday-around-the-corner side, so I keep track of most stuff by default.</p>
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		<title>By: rodriguez</title>
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		<dc:creator>rodriguez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2010 23:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@MM in Spain there&#039;s no Santa Claus. Instead kids get presents from the 3 kings on Jan. 6. So one year as a child we spent xmas there, and that&#039;s when I realized there&#039;s no Santa Claus. 

Also, they make nativity scenes out of chocolate there. I know it sounds like a plot line out of Curb Your Enthusiasm...  http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4007/5164370530_fe61166a72_z.jpg, but it is 100% true.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@MM in Spain there&#8217;s no Santa Claus. Instead kids get presents from the 3 kings on Jan. 6. So one year as a child we spent xmas there, and that&#8217;s when I realized there&#8217;s no Santa Claus. </p>
<p>Also, they make nativity scenes out of chocolate there. I know it sounds like a plot line out of Curb Your Enthusiasm&#8230;  <a href="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4007/5164370530_fe61166a72_z.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4007/5164370530_fe61166a72_z.jpg</a>, but it is 100% true.</p>
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		<title>By: emilyanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>emilyanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2010 22:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@MM -with great difficulty but I did manage to eventually.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@MM -with great difficulty but I did manage to eventually.</p>
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		<title>By: Mackey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mackey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2010 21:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Growing up, it was really my dad that drove the Christmas celebrations, especially the cooking, baking and tree decorating. Present shopping was done by both mum and dad. My dad being from an eastern European background, Christmas Eve was the family meal and presents. However given that practically of the relatives (from both the matro and patro sides) live overseas, it was mum, dad, and all of us kids, and our Grandfather when he lived with us.

When my parents divorced, as kids we went to dad&#039;s on Christmas Eve, and did a Christmas lunch with mum. As we got older presents were optional. The Christmas lunch at mum&#039;s became a time for all of us kids to catch up with each other, as not everyone went to dad&#039;s.

Now, I prefer not to celebrate Christmas, and will often not visit family at this time. I don&#039;t do a tree, cards, et al. But I do send a package with decorations to 3 of my family&#039;s homes (2 sisters and my mum), so that they can name one of the decorations after me, and that&#039;s my avatar for Christmas. 
I find that even in my low key celebrating family that some of my siblings have expectations of how the day will go at mum&#039;s, but never share them, mix in alcohol, and somehow there&#039;s some family drama that links back to some expectation that wasn&#039;t met and never said.
I usually go camping at this time of year (in Australia it&#039;s perfect weather!) so there is no mobile coverage, internet, etc. And I enjoy this time of year relaxing by bushwalking, bad surfing, swimming, reading, drawing, sleeping, eating bbq food made by me (or the SO)...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Growing up, it was really my dad that drove the Christmas celebrations, especially the cooking, baking and tree decorating. Present shopping was done by both mum and dad. My dad being from an eastern European background, Christmas Eve was the family meal and presents. However given that practically of the relatives (from both the matro and patro sides) live overseas, it was mum, dad, and all of us kids, and our Grandfather when he lived with us.</p>
<p>When my parents divorced, as kids we went to dad&#8217;s on Christmas Eve, and did a Christmas lunch with mum. As we got older presents were optional. The Christmas lunch at mum&#8217;s became a time for all of us kids to catch up with each other, as not everyone went to dad&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Now, I prefer not to celebrate Christmas, and will often not visit family at this time. I don&#8217;t do a tree, cards, et al. But I do send a package with decorations to 3 of my family&#8217;s homes (2 sisters and my mum), so that they can name one of the decorations after me, and that&#8217;s my avatar for Christmas.<br />
I find that even in my low key celebrating family that some of my siblings have expectations of how the day will go at mum&#8217;s, but never share them, mix in alcohol, and somehow there&#8217;s some family drama that links back to some expectation that wasn&#8217;t met and never said.<br />
I usually go camping at this time of year (in Australia it&#8217;s perfect weather!) so there is no mobile coverage, internet, etc. And I enjoy this time of year relaxing by bushwalking, bad surfing, swimming, reading, drawing, sleeping, eating bbq food made by me (or the SO)&#8230;</p>
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