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	<title>Comments on: The Martyr Mom Syndrome: Officially Invading Facebook</title>
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		<title>By: Winama</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2011/01/24/the-martyr-mom-syndrome-officially-invading-facebook/comment-page-1/#comment-90965</link>
		<dc:creator>Winama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2013 00:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Um, this is why I DO NOT use facebook.  It&#039;s ridiculous and a waste of time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, this is why I DO NOT use facebook.  It&#8217;s ridiculous and a waste of time.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 21:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@MarieAnnelle - Such an awesome post.  Thank you. 

@Kelly - Your response could have been written by mom mom.  She says being a mother of small children was the best time in her life, and it&#039;s hard on her now that she &quot;isn&#039;t needed anymore.&quot;  I want you to know, it is a lot of pressure on your daughter to say that she&#039;s your best friend and that you have such a unique bond, etc.  Trust me -- I was my mom-martyr&#039;s best friend growing up.  

I&#039;m sure that my reaction to that pressure may be different from your daughter&#039;s...but you might be as unaware of that pressure as my mom is/was, and I think it&#039;s important for you to create some healthy boundaries between you and her. (And don&#039;t bother asking her about this.  I can guarantee you that she will say you&#039;re not putting any pressure on her and that you are her best friend, etc.) 

Although I didn&#039;t realize it at the time, *everything* I did/said/thought was an attempt to keep up my mom&#039;s storyline.  I basically tried to make myself the slightly improved (i.e. better educated, higher performing) version of her--so she would see me as a reflection of her and of her sacrifice to me. 

It wasn&#039;t healthy.  And now--at 35--I am struggling with my relationship with my mom.  Understand, we still see each other at least once a week and we talk all the time, but I no longer reflect her.  She thinks I hate her because I don&#039;t pretend to be her best friend anymore.  Sometimes (shock) my opinions are different from hers (and different from the opinions she always thought I had).  It is absolutely shocking to her, and it hurts me that she doesn&#039;t understand that I do love her even if I&#039;m not pretending to be her best friend anymore. 

There&#039;s nothing wrong with having a close relationship, and I credit my mom with doing everything in her power to be a better mom than she had.  I don&#039;t blame her for making these mistakes.  But I do wish she hadn&#039;t made them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@MarieAnnelle &#8211; Such an awesome post.  Thank you. </p>
<p>@Kelly &#8211; Your response could have been written by mom mom.  She says being a mother of small children was the best time in her life, and it&#8217;s hard on her now that she &#8220;isn&#8217;t needed anymore.&#8221;  I want you to know, it is a lot of pressure on your daughter to say that she&#8217;s your best friend and that you have such a unique bond, etc.  Trust me &#8212; I was my mom-martyr&#8217;s best friend growing up.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure that my reaction to that pressure may be different from your daughter&#8217;s&#8230;but you might be as unaware of that pressure as my mom is/was, and I think it&#8217;s important for you to create some healthy boundaries between you and her. (And don&#8217;t bother asking her about this.  I can guarantee you that she will say you&#8217;re not putting any pressure on her and that you are her best friend, etc.) </p>
<p>Although I didn&#8217;t realize it at the time, *everything* I did/said/thought was an attempt to keep up my mom&#8217;s storyline.  I basically tried to make myself the slightly improved (i.e. better educated, higher performing) version of her&#8211;so she would see me as a reflection of her and of her sacrifice to me. </p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t healthy.  And now&#8211;at 35&#8211;I am struggling with my relationship with my mom.  Understand, we still see each other at least once a week and we talk all the time, but I no longer reflect her.  She thinks I hate her because I don&#8217;t pretend to be her best friend anymore.  Sometimes (shock) my opinions are different from hers (and different from the opinions she always thought I had).  It is absolutely shocking to her, and it hurts me that she doesn&#8217;t understand that I do love her even if I&#8217;m not pretending to be her best friend anymore. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s nothing wrong with having a close relationship, and I credit my mom with doing everything in her power to be a better mom than she had.  I don&#8217;t blame her for making these mistakes.  But I do wish she hadn&#8217;t made them.</p>
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		<title>By: Lindsey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lindsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2012 11:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I understand the stupidity of the post, I do. But when your children are young, you do have to sacrifice ALOT of yourself for the better of your kids. Yes, as time goes by you sacrifice a little less. But from the second you become pregnant, there is a life YOU have created andos therefore completely dependent upon you. Since my dayghter was born I&#039;ve always had a problem with people telling me to have &quot;me time&quot;. I refuse to leave my child with someone who hardly knows how to meet her needs efficiently (family and her dad alike) so I can do so. I gain happiness from taking care of my daughter. Becoming a parent means alot falls by the wayside but CAN be picked up again in time. As for telling your children you shouldn&#039;t have had kids? That their pure existence wasn&#039;t wanted? Thats a lengthy therapist bill in the making.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand the stupidity of the post, I do. But when your children are young, you do have to sacrifice ALOT of yourself for the better of your kids. Yes, as time goes by you sacrifice a little less. But from the second you become pregnant, there is a life YOU have created andos therefore completely dependent upon you. Since my dayghter was born I&#8217;ve always had a problem with people telling me to have &#8220;me time&#8221;. I refuse to leave my child with someone who hardly knows how to meet her needs efficiently (family and her dad alike) so I can do so. I gain happiness from taking care of my daughter. Becoming a parent means alot falls by the wayside but CAN be picked up again in time. As for telling your children you shouldn&#8217;t have had kids? That their pure existence wasn&#8217;t wanted? Thats a lengthy therapist bill in the making.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 22:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow I am sorry that the writer if this feels the way she does. I am a mom. I am not in a marriage where my husband is an equal partner. Out lives have not been easy because of choices he has made. 
However, to me personally, being a mom is the best thing ever. My daughter is the very best person I know and the truest friend I have ever had. We have a bond that is stronger than any I know. It is not about defying me it is about what I choose. I choose to give 100% to my daughter. Not because I am being a martyr or for any reason except I want to. I would never bash anyone else&#039;s choice or opinion. I respect  the choices you make to be right for your life.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow I am sorry that the writer if this feels the way she does. I am a mom. I am not in a marriage where my husband is an equal partner. Out lives have not been easy because of choices he has made.<br />
However, to me personally, being a mom is the best thing ever. My daughter is the very best person I know and the truest friend I have ever had. We have a bond that is stronger than any I know. It is not about defying me it is about what I choose. I choose to give 100% to my daughter. Not because I am being a martyr or for any reason except I want to. I would never bash anyone else&#8217;s choice or opinion. I respect  the choices you make to be right for your life.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 18:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow. I would like to meet this woman face to face. I don&#039;t think she would like me at all.

I would set her straight rather quickly that some people, are not cut out to be a mother. My sister &amp; I had a horrid mother. Lazy, resentful, uninvolved, abusive to a degree, among other things. 

I am physically unable to have children. After several failed options, my Catholic (ex)husband &amp; I realized that being child-less wasn&#039;t so bad. We embraced our child free life, lived how we wanted and told those that questioned our decision to &quot;Stop trying&quot; to ... SHUT THE HELL UP unless they were going to donate eggs, pay for the procedure for fertilization, implantation, pre-natal care, delivery expense and then supply the funds needed for college. 

We devoted ourselves to our nieces and nephews and the children of close friends. Aunt Amy &amp; Uncle Stan were ALWAYS there when the kids or the parents needed us. We stepped in to give the parents time to enjoy themselves without having to worry if the kids were okay or having to pay a sitter. 

I love my life. No regrets. I don&#039;t think I was cut out to be a mom, but I make one hella&#039; good Aunt to my sister&#039;s kids and the children of my friends!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. I would like to meet this woman face to face. I don&#8217;t think she would like me at all.</p>
<p>I would set her straight rather quickly that some people, are not cut out to be a mother. My sister &amp; I had a horrid mother. Lazy, resentful, uninvolved, abusive to a degree, among other things. </p>
<p>I am physically unable to have children. After several failed options, my Catholic (ex)husband &amp; I realized that being child-less wasn&#8217;t so bad. We embraced our child free life, lived how we wanted and told those that questioned our decision to &#8220;Stop trying&#8221; to &#8230; SHUT THE HELL UP unless they were going to donate eggs, pay for the procedure for fertilization, implantation, pre-natal care, delivery expense and then supply the funds needed for college. </p>
<p>We devoted ourselves to our nieces and nephews and the children of close friends. Aunt Amy &amp; Uncle Stan were ALWAYS there when the kids or the parents needed us. We stepped in to give the parents time to enjoy themselves without having to worry if the kids were okay or having to pay a sitter. </p>
<p>I love my life. No regrets. I don&#8217;t think I was cut out to be a mom, but I make one hella&#8217; good Aunt to my sister&#8217;s kids and the children of my friends!</p>
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		<title>By: Belinda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Belinda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2011 17:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for saying this. I feel at the age of 37 my life is just beginning for me NOW, certainly not when I had my children at 22 and 25. At that stage of my life I didn&#039;t really know who I was or what I wanted and I just got on with the whole mothering business because I had to. I didn&#039;t bond with them at birth (every good mum should do that, shouldn&#039;t she?) and didn&#039;t particularly enjoy their early years at all. Neither myself or my husband were natural parents and we struggled to come to terms with the sacrifices that we found ourselves having to make.

It wasn&#039;t until they were both past the age of ten we both really started to enjoy them. And now, at ages 15 and 12 they are a real joy (well, most of the time!). But that&#039;s mostly because it&#039;s such a pleasure seeing them mature into independent, confident young people who are able to think for themselves and don&#039;t always need our help with everything. I have always stressed the importance of being able to take care of themselves and to be able to amuse themselves without constantly relying on me. There are some that think this is wrong (their grandmothers for instance!) because they sacrificed everything for their own children and think that a woman&#039;s greatest joy is to be constantly needed. But isn&#039;t that a little selfish? What happens when the child gets to the stage where he or she should be striking out to make a life of their own yet they can&#039;t properly because they feel the weight of Mum&#039;s sadness that she is no longer needed bearing down on them? And how are they ever going to learn to be independent if Mum never teaches them to do things for themselves?

I&#039;m certainly not a pecfect mother by any means, but I hope that I&#039;ve taught my children that you don&#039;t need to give up your sense of self, needs, or interests to be considered &#039;good&#039;. Instead of seeing me striving to make a perfect four course meal in a perfect kitchen they have seen me work hard towards my degree in Biochemistry as well as cultivating a multitude of interests. We often have fascinating conversations about a range of topics and I feel that this is where I excel, this is what motherhood is about for me. Not changing dirty nappies or talking baby talk whist proclaiming what a joy it is. It&#039;s not.

I&#039;m sorry that this post has been so long, but I think the motherhood myth has been spread about for too long (often by women&#039;s own mothers) without being questioned, and it makes me FURIOUS. The more people that speak up about this nonsense the better. Motherhood is just one part of life and it shouldn&#039;t be a woman&#039;s sole identity and purpose.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for saying this. I feel at the age of 37 my life is just beginning for me NOW, certainly not when I had my children at 22 and 25. At that stage of my life I didn&#8217;t really know who I was or what I wanted and I just got on with the whole mothering business because I had to. I didn&#8217;t bond with them at birth (every good mum should do that, shouldn&#8217;t she?) and didn&#8217;t particularly enjoy their early years at all. Neither myself or my husband were natural parents and we struggled to come to terms with the sacrifices that we found ourselves having to make.</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t until they were both past the age of ten we both really started to enjoy them. And now, at ages 15 and 12 they are a real joy (well, most of the time!). But that&#8217;s mostly because it&#8217;s such a pleasure seeing them mature into independent, confident young people who are able to think for themselves and don&#8217;t always need our help with everything. I have always stressed the importance of being able to take care of themselves and to be able to amuse themselves without constantly relying on me. There are some that think this is wrong (their grandmothers for instance!) because they sacrificed everything for their own children and think that a woman&#8217;s greatest joy is to be constantly needed. But isn&#8217;t that a little selfish? What happens when the child gets to the stage where he or she should be striking out to make a life of their own yet they can&#8217;t properly because they feel the weight of Mum&#8217;s sadness that she is no longer needed bearing down on them? And how are they ever going to learn to be independent if Mum never teaches them to do things for themselves?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m certainly not a pecfect mother by any means, but I hope that I&#8217;ve taught my children that you don&#8217;t need to give up your sense of self, needs, or interests to be considered &#8216;good&#8217;. Instead of seeing me striving to make a perfect four course meal in a perfect kitchen they have seen me work hard towards my degree in Biochemistry as well as cultivating a multitude of interests. We often have fascinating conversations about a range of topics and I feel that this is where I excel, this is what motherhood is about for me. Not changing dirty nappies or talking baby talk whist proclaiming what a joy it is. It&#8217;s not.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry that this post has been so long, but I think the motherhood myth has been spread about for too long (often by women&#8217;s own mothers) without being questioned, and it makes me FURIOUS. The more people that speak up about this nonsense the better. Motherhood is just one part of life and it shouldn&#8217;t be a woman&#8217;s sole identity and purpose.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashley Bauman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashley Bauman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 20:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Love this post. I had to share it on my blog: www.modernmommymagic.blogspot.com. Thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love this post. I had to share it on my blog: <a href="http://www.modernmommymagic.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.modernmommymagic.blogspot.com</a>. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: What women want. &#124; Ryersonwomenscentre&#039;s Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>What women want. &#124; Ryersonwomenscentre&#039;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 00:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] for further reading pleasure, an article I wanted to include that I feel is relevant, and has to do with the topic of motherhood. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] for further reading pleasure, an article I wanted to include that I feel is relevant, and has to do with the topic of motherhood. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: lialife</title>
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		<dc:creator>lialife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2011 19:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@PHDork - thank you. you&#039;re one of the people who made me realize that it wasn&#039;t crazy for me to go back to school.

@Av0gadro - Ugh the &quot;life beginning&quot; line. That&#039;s right up there with arriving somewhere alone and being asked &quot;Where are the kids?&quot; (Um, with their FATHER) and the ever famous &quot;I don&#039;t know how you do everything.&quot; (read: neglect those poor children while you jaunt off to your selfish pursuits...unlike me)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@PHDork &#8211; thank you. you&#8217;re one of the people who made me realize that it wasn&#8217;t crazy for me to go back to school.</p>
<p>@Av0gadro &#8211; Ugh the &#8220;life beginning&#8221; line. That&#8217;s right up there with arriving somewhere alone and being asked &#8220;Where are the kids?&#8221; (Um, with their FATHER) and the ever famous &#8220;I don&#8217;t know how you do everything.&#8221; (read: neglect those poor children while you jaunt off to your selfish pursuits&#8230;unlike me)</p>
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		<title>By: Amber McSherry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amber McSherry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2011 18:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The funniest part is that I was sooo irritated by that post that I googled it hoping to find one that would address exactly what yours says! So thank you for that too!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The funniest part is that I was sooo irritated by that post that I googled it hoping to find one that would address exactly what yours says! So thank you for that too!</p>
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