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		<title>By: SkyBlue</title>
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		<dc:creator>SkyBlue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2011 16:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BTW...if we could have separate bedrooms that we could sleep in at least once a week, that would be cool too.  My husband would never agree to that, though.

My ideal bedroom would be very feminine with lots of pretty details, but with a punk-rock twist too.  Maybe some leopard throw pillows to spiff things up.  I know that I would definitely LOVE my own bathroom. We live in an apartment with only one bathroom, which can be awkward.

The more I think about it, having a separate bedroom wouldn&#039;t be so bad provided I don&#039;t sleep in there on a daily basis.  I could have my own little reading nook and I could store most of my stuff in there so he wouldn&#039;t complain about clutter anymore.  Plus, I could read or watch TV and surf the Internet without disturbing him.  Hmmm...;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW&#8230;if we could have separate bedrooms that we could sleep in at least once a week, that would be cool too.  My husband would never agree to that, though.</p>
<p>My ideal bedroom would be very feminine with lots of pretty details, but with a punk-rock twist too.  Maybe some leopard throw pillows to spiff things up.  I know that I would definitely LOVE my own bathroom. We live in an apartment with only one bathroom, which can be awkward.</p>
<p>The more I think about it, having a separate bedroom wouldn&#8217;t be so bad provided I don&#8217;t sleep in there on a daily basis.  I could have my own little reading nook and I could store most of my stuff in there so he wouldn&#8217;t complain about clutter anymore.  Plus, I could read or watch TV and surf the Internet without disturbing him.  Hmmm&#8230;;)</p>
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		<title>By: SkyBlue</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2011/01/31/on-living-together-but-sleeping-separately/comment-page-1/#comment-70481</link>
		<dc:creator>SkyBlue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2011 15:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for sharing, you guys!  Lots of cool stories here.  ;)  I believe that everyone should do what works for them...don&#039;t worry about being judged.

My husband and I share the same bed.  It has pros and cons.  I suffer with insomnia and I can&#039;t always fall asleep when he does.  I like to cuddle but I don&#039;t enjoy being smothered, especially when it is hot.  He complains about me staying up too late reading but it is only because I can&#039;t sleep.

I don&#039;t see anything wrong with separate beds because different people have different needs.  

But I will say this...when I first visited my in-laws, I was a bit weirded out by the arrangements.  DH was 38 years old and not allowed to be in the same room with me.  Now that we&#039;ve been married almost two years, we can share a bedroom but we still have to sleep on these extremely uncomfortable twin beds divided by a table in the middle.  My body is stiff after being on one of those things.  They remind me of hospital cots.  I find it to be a very weird arrangement when we visit, but I figure that his mother is just very old-school and not with the times.  She is also a fundamentalist Christian so that makes for some interesting stuff too.

His parents sleep in the same bed, with the exception of a few times when they didn&#039;t.  I don&#039;t understand why married couples that stay in their home are forced to sleep in separate beds and uncomfortable beds at that.   I&#039;m not kidding, the beds are so hard.  I don&#039;t see how anyone could sleep on them.  I&#039;m thankful that we will be staying at a hotel this year while my SIL and her husband will be staying with the in-laws.  I love my in-laws, but I will not miss the rock-hard beds and the weirdness of it all.

But that is my only personal issue with separate beds, because of my in-laws. Their arrangements are kind of &quot;unique&quot;, for lack of a better word. They tend to impose their values and beliefs on others. What other couples do in their own home is none of my business and I actually think it&#039;s pretty cool that some couples have separate beds or bedrooms, as long as the marriage is happy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing, you guys!  Lots of cool stories here.  <img src='http://www.harpyness.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   I believe that everyone should do what works for them&#8230;don&#8217;t worry about being judged.</p>
<p>My husband and I share the same bed.  It has pros and cons.  I suffer with insomnia and I can&#8217;t always fall asleep when he does.  I like to cuddle but I don&#8217;t enjoy being smothered, especially when it is hot.  He complains about me staying up too late reading but it is only because I can&#8217;t sleep.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see anything wrong with separate beds because different people have different needs.  </p>
<p>But I will say this&#8230;when I first visited my in-laws, I was a bit weirded out by the arrangements.  DH was 38 years old and not allowed to be in the same room with me.  Now that we&#8217;ve been married almost two years, we can share a bedroom but we still have to sleep on these extremely uncomfortable twin beds divided by a table in the middle.  My body is stiff after being on one of those things.  They remind me of hospital cots.  I find it to be a very weird arrangement when we visit, but I figure that his mother is just very old-school and not with the times.  She is also a fundamentalist Christian so that makes for some interesting stuff too.</p>
<p>His parents sleep in the same bed, with the exception of a few times when they didn&#8217;t.  I don&#8217;t understand why married couples that stay in their home are forced to sleep in separate beds and uncomfortable beds at that.   I&#8217;m not kidding, the beds are so hard.  I don&#8217;t see how anyone could sleep on them.  I&#8217;m thankful that we will be staying at a hotel this year while my SIL and her husband will be staying with the in-laws.  I love my in-laws, but I will not miss the rock-hard beds and the weirdness of it all.</p>
<p>But that is my only personal issue with separate beds, because of my in-laws. Their arrangements are kind of &#8220;unique&#8221;, for lack of a better word. They tend to impose their values and beliefs on others. What other couples do in their own home is none of my business and I actually think it&#8217;s pretty cool that some couples have separate beds or bedrooms, as long as the marriage is happy.</p>
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		<title>By: Meg Thornton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meg Thornton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 15:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[(Here via Hoyden About Town)

My mother&#039;s paternal grandparents had separate houses, not just separate beds.  They also had a marriage which lasted longer &lt;i&gt;because&lt;/i&gt; they were at opposite ends of their small Australian country town (I believe old Grandpop&#039;s explanation was that he loved his wife, but he couldn&#039;t stand to live with her).  Given they largely lived out their lives in the years prior to easy divorce, and given also they were Christadelphians (or in other words, my mother&#039;s family were Christian fundamentalists long before it was cool) and therefore couldn&#039;t divorce even if they wanted to, it was a workable solution to the whole issue.

Himself and Myself both snore - which meant on the occasions we shared a bed, it was a race to see who wound up falling asleep first.  The first one to sleep would be able to sleep; the other one got to spend a largely sleepless night and get up grumpy and irritable the next morning.  So now we have separate beds, separate bedrooms, and where possible, we have these on separate floors of the house.  Thus we both get to sleep, and we both get to wake up after having had enough sleep to survive on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Here via Hoyden About Town)</p>
<p>My mother&#8217;s paternal grandparents had separate houses, not just separate beds.  They also had a marriage which lasted longer <i>because</i> they were at opposite ends of their small Australian country town (I believe old Grandpop&#8217;s explanation was that he loved his wife, but he couldn&#8217;t stand to live with her).  Given they largely lived out their lives in the years prior to easy divorce, and given also they were Christadelphians (or in other words, my mother&#8217;s family were Christian fundamentalists long before it was cool) and therefore couldn&#8217;t divorce even if they wanted to, it was a workable solution to the whole issue.</p>
<p>Himself and Myself both snore &#8211; which meant on the occasions we shared a bed, it was a race to see who wound up falling asleep first.  The first one to sleep would be able to sleep; the other one got to spend a largely sleepless night and get up grumpy and irritable the next morning.  So now we have separate beds, separate bedrooms, and where possible, we have these on separate floors of the house.  Thus we both get to sleep, and we both get to wake up after having had enough sleep to survive on.</p>
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		<title>By: Signal Boost: Minerva on Sensual Asexuality - The Pursuit of Harpyness</title>
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		<dc:creator>Signal Boost: Minerva on Sensual Asexuality - The Pursuit of Harpyness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 14:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] been having this week on the thread about sexual orientation and desire, and on the thread about marriage and sleeping arrangements, I thought Harpy readers might be interested. She writes, in part: I all too often feel in these [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] been having this week on the thread about sexual orientation and desire, and on the thread about marriage and sleeping arrangements, I thought Harpy readers might be interested. She writes, in part: I all too often feel in these [...]</p>
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		<title>By: temporarily_anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>temporarily_anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 11:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m one of the people in a sexless marriage, but it&#039;s not in the least coming to an end.  I have medical issues that prevent sex from being pleasurable, so we don&#039;t.  However, we sleep together in the same bed, and have tons of physical contact, because both of us adore each other, and don&#039;t want to be apart.  I&#039;d be terribly lonely in a separate bed.  Sleeping together isn&#039;t always about sex, obvs.  :)

My grandparents slept in separate rooms towards the end of my grandfather&#039;s life (as he was dying of lung cancer), and they slept in separate beds long before that, but they loved each other until death.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m one of the people in a sexless marriage, but it&#8217;s not in the least coming to an end.  I have medical issues that prevent sex from being pleasurable, so we don&#8217;t.  However, we sleep together in the same bed, and have tons of physical contact, because both of us adore each other, and don&#8217;t want to be apart.  I&#8217;d be terribly lonely in a separate bed.  Sleeping together isn&#8217;t always about sex, obvs.  <img src='http://www.harpyness.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>My grandparents slept in separate rooms towards the end of my grandfather&#8217;s life (as he was dying of lung cancer), and they slept in separate beds long before that, but they loved each other until death.</p>
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		<title>By: Bee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2011 14:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My grandpeople started sleeping in separate bedrooms fairly recently.  My grandma is a warm sleeper (needs lots of blankets and heat at all times), while my grandpa is a cold sleeper (needs the window to be open even in the middle of winter).  At their ages, I think that finding a way to compromise on the temperature thing in the same room when their comfort levels have grown so far apart had finally become too difficult.  When they told me about their new arrangement because I was staying over, I thought nothing of it.  My grandpeople have a good marriage and their sleeping arrangement doesn&#039;t reflect on any aspect of their relationship, except in the sense that they&#039;re secure enough not to think that sleeping in separate rooms has a negative connotation.

I, on the other hand, have a great deal of difficulty kicking my boo out of bed even though she snores and moves around a lot in her sleep and eventually takes up so much space that I hardly have any room for myself.  She&#039;s a heat-thief and a cuddler, so she hates sleeping alone.  And I don&#039;t know how to say &quot;no&quot; to her when she gives me that puppy-eyes look.  Her former sleeping partners really spoiled her because they let her sleep on top of them, which doesn&#039;t work for me because she&#039;s gained a lot of weight in the last three years.  The worst part is when she wakes up in the middle of the night and wants to play, and she growls and whines at me when I tell her that I&#039;m too tired.  I really should have gotten a cat.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My grandpeople started sleeping in separate bedrooms fairly recently.  My grandma is a warm sleeper (needs lots of blankets and heat at all times), while my grandpa is a cold sleeper (needs the window to be open even in the middle of winter).  At their ages, I think that finding a way to compromise on the temperature thing in the same room when their comfort levels have grown so far apart had finally become too difficult.  When they told me about their new arrangement because I was staying over, I thought nothing of it.  My grandpeople have a good marriage and their sleeping arrangement doesn&#8217;t reflect on any aspect of their relationship, except in the sense that they&#8217;re secure enough not to think that sleeping in separate rooms has a negative connotation.</p>
<p>I, on the other hand, have a great deal of difficulty kicking my boo out of bed even though she snores and moves around a lot in her sleep and eventually takes up so much space that I hardly have any room for myself.  She&#8217;s a heat-thief and a cuddler, so she hates sleeping alone.  And I don&#8217;t know how to say &#8220;no&#8221; to her when she gives me that puppy-eyes look.  Her former sleeping partners really spoiled her because they let her sleep on top of them, which doesn&#8217;t work for me because she&#8217;s gained a lot of weight in the last three years.  The worst part is when she wakes up in the middle of the night and wants to play, and she growls and whines at me when I tell her that I&#8217;m too tired.  I really should have gotten a cat.</p>
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		<title>By: funnyface</title>
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		<dc:creator>funnyface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2011 14:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sort of on both sides of this one. For a long time, my husband snored TERRIBLY. We got fed up with both of our sleep suffering (me because of his snoring, him because I was waking him up to tell him to try a new position to lessen the snoring), and so we started sleeping in separate rooms. We&#039;d &quot;go to bed in the same bed together and cuddle, but when the snoring started, one of us would go to the guest room. It worked great. We got our snuggle time, which we both like, but we also got our sleep. He often works overnight shifts, so adjusting to sleeping apart wasn&#039;t so hard. 

Recently, he got one of those mouth guards that pulls the jaw forward to keep the airway open and prevent snoring. It WORKS, people. Now we sleep in the same bed unless he&#039;s got a cold and has a stuffy nose, because the mouthguard necessitates nighttime nose breathing, and he can&#039;t wear it when he can&#039;t breathe through his nose. 

I think my favorite thing about sleeping in the same bed again is the morning snuggle time that we have back. I&#039;m like a baby with my need for skin to skin contact.

So: sleeping apart: it can rock and be a total marriage saver, contrary to stereotypes. BUT, if snoring is what is keeping you apart and you&#039;d rather be together, try one of those mouthguards. You can get them for cheaps on Amazon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sort of on both sides of this one. For a long time, my husband snored TERRIBLY. We got fed up with both of our sleep suffering (me because of his snoring, him because I was waking him up to tell him to try a new position to lessen the snoring), and so we started sleeping in separate rooms. We&#8217;d &#8220;go to bed in the same bed together and cuddle, but when the snoring started, one of us would go to the guest room. It worked great. We got our snuggle time, which we both like, but we also got our sleep. He often works overnight shifts, so adjusting to sleeping apart wasn&#8217;t so hard. </p>
<p>Recently, he got one of those mouth guards that pulls the jaw forward to keep the airway open and prevent snoring. It WORKS, people. Now we sleep in the same bed unless he&#8217;s got a cold and has a stuffy nose, because the mouthguard necessitates nighttime nose breathing, and he can&#8217;t wear it when he can&#8217;t breathe through his nose. </p>
<p>I think my favorite thing about sleeping in the same bed again is the morning snuggle time that we have back. I&#8217;m like a baby with my need for skin to skin contact.</p>
<p>So: sleeping apart: it can rock and be a total marriage saver, contrary to stereotypes. BUT, if snoring is what is keeping you apart and you&#8217;d rather be together, try one of those mouthguards. You can get them for cheaps on Amazon.</p>
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		<title>By: Gen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2011 04:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What about those old sit-coms, like the Dick Van Dyke show and I Love Lucy, where the couples were *always* shown in separate beds? Were the viewers supposed to think that was the status quo in reality, or did they understand it was for TV purposes only? There wasn&#039;t any stigma attached to that arrangement in the plots. Wasn&#039;t there a bit of a scandal when Carol and Mike Brady were shown sharing a bed on The Brady Bunch? (Dating myself a bit, here!)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about those old sit-coms, like the Dick Van Dyke show and I Love Lucy, where the couples were *always* shown in separate beds? Were the viewers supposed to think that was the status quo in reality, or did they understand it was for TV purposes only? There wasn&#8217;t any stigma attached to that arrangement in the plots. Wasn&#8217;t there a bit of a scandal when Carol and Mike Brady were shown sharing a bed on The Brady Bunch? (Dating myself a bit, here!)</p>
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		<title>By: annimal</title>
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		<dc:creator>annimal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2011 02:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This has always seemed to be such a common sense matter of personal preference that it still surprises me that people find it weird if people have separate beds, or, at the other extreme, pile all the kids and pets into bed with them, or anything in between.  
I&#039;m on the fence with regards to co-sleeping, so it kind of depends on whom I&#039;m sleeping with.  I like the extra cuddle time but I am a light sleeper and have a lot more trouble falling asleep or staying asleep when there&#039;s someone else in the bed.  My last manpanion was a snorer/farter/tosser + turner/allergy sufferer, so there were many nights when I escaped to the couch.  My current manpanion is a lot quieter/stiller/less smelly, so it&#039;s a lot easier and more enjoyable to share the bed with him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has always seemed to be such a common sense matter of personal preference that it still surprises me that people find it weird if people have separate beds, or, at the other extreme, pile all the kids and pets into bed with them, or anything in between.<br />
I&#8217;m on the fence with regards to co-sleeping, so it kind of depends on whom I&#8217;m sleeping with.  I like the extra cuddle time but I am a light sleeper and have a lot more trouble falling asleep or staying asleep when there&#8217;s someone else in the bed.  My last manpanion was a snorer/farter/tosser + turner/allergy sufferer, so there were many nights when I escaped to the couch.  My current manpanion is a lot quieter/stiller/less smelly, so it&#8217;s a lot easier and more enjoyable to share the bed with him.</p>
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		<title>By: PhDork</title>
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		<dc:creator>PhDork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2011 02:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think I&#039;ve mentioned this before, but the Dude and I used to have separate rooms (when we first moved in together back in the late 90s).  Mostly slept together, alternating rooms/beds, but occasionally had/wanted/liked having our own spaces for sleeping.

Like everything else, we go through phases, from super-snuggly to don&#039;t-touch-me, and there are always at least two cats in bed with us at night, so it&#039;s cozy, regardless.

And having my own room for the sake of having my own room is just always a good idea.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I&#8217;ve mentioned this before, but the Dude and I used to have separate rooms (when we first moved in together back in the late 90s).  Mostly slept together, alternating rooms/beds, but occasionally had/wanted/liked having our own spaces for sleeping.</p>
<p>Like everything else, we go through phases, from super-snuggly to don&#8217;t-touch-me, and there are always at least two cats in bed with us at night, so it&#8217;s cozy, regardless.</p>
<p>And having my own room for the sake of having my own room is just always a good idea.</p>
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