Posts about rape do tend to bring the trolls scuttling out from under their bridges, and Marie Anelle’s open letter to odious pro-rapist Judge Robert Dewar was no different. A dude named Ray showed up, and while I deleted his comments, they were so stupid and so ridiculous that I felt compelled to share them with you so we can have a jolly troll-stomp to liven up our weekend. Ray wrote:
FINALLY! A judge with some common sense! This so-called “rape” was nothing more and nothing less than a MISUNDERSTANDING about whether consent was given or not. And when a girl is sporting a tube top and high-heels to go with her tight jeans, has some drinks with a guy, suggests they go skinny-dipping, gets into a car with this guy she just met, then she is, at the very least, CONTRIBUTING to that misunderstanding.
So, yeah, your garden-variety rape apology. Obviously, Ray believes a man has the right to rape a woman because that woman was drinking or wearing a tube top or skinny-dipping. Even if he was convicted of rape, well…the rapist just misunderstood the situation, and that was the victim’s fault. Personally, I’ve worn tube tops, had drinks, and yes, even skinny-dipped with men, and shockingly, those men all understood that none of those things made it okay to rape me. Maybe I hang out with men who are smarter than Ray, who appears to be still struggling with that concept (ditto Judge Dewar, who should know better).
There was more to the comment, but I won’t bore you with it. It concluded with….the man-haters clearly won’t let this go, until he is given a punishment that will ruin his life. [which, I might add, is a clear violation of what we in America condemn as the barbaric practice of “double jeopardy”.] Now, protection against double jeopardy prevents a citizen from being tried again for the same crime once he’s been acquitted. The rapist here was convicted, not acquitted, so he won’t be tried again. Since double jeopardy has nothing to do with sentencing, there’s no chance of double jeopardy here at all.
I sent Ray a little note in the comments, telling him that he was a rape apologist who should STFU and go away (and maybe also look up “double jeopardy” while he’s at it). I had the feeling he might be lurking. Turns out, he was. And he tried to post another comment, which was even more of a howler. Because, y’all, it seems I was censoring him, and also, I hurt his feelings:
I didn’t write my comment just for you; it was an editorial I submitted to dozens of sites. I don’t need your approval. The brave sites; and the ones willing to consider BOTH sides of the issue; and the ones who are against censorship just on principle; they ALL “approved” it.
In addition to looking up “double jeopardy”, Ray should also check out “censorship.” I’m not the government, so I can’t censor anyone. And while he may feel that morally he doesn’t need me to approve of his opinion—which is true, he doesn’t—he needs our approval to post his comment on our website. And guess what? We ain’t giving it. If others want to, that’s their business.
I’m not ignorant. Ignorant would be an unwillingness to consider both sides of the issue. I’m not a woman hater. I love women. My mom was a woman.
Mine too! Funny how that works! But having a mother has never prevented misogyny—every single rapist and woman-hater ever born came out of some woman’s body. Having a mama—even one you love—doesn’t mean you can’t hate women in general.
And I’m not a rape apologist–but SOMEBODY should apologize for the fact that it’s even possible for a young man to face a prison sentence over drunken, regrettable sex in a he-said/she-said situation.
It’s possible for us all to face a prison sentence if we break the law. Which this young man did, according to a jury of his peers. No one thinks its necessary to apologize for there being laws against rape…except for rape apologists like you, Ray.
I know what double-jeopardy means here in America.
No, you don’t. Or you’d know it applies only to those acquitted of crimes.
But yes, I’m quite painfully aware that it doesn’t mean the same thing in less civilized countries such as Canada.
This is not true; Canadian citizens are protected from double jeopardy under their constitution as well.
If you wish to reply, please do so by E-mail. Not sure I’ll be checking back here, now that the UNwelcome mat has been unfurled.
Did we make you feel unwelcome? Oh noes!
Thanks for the love, Ray, but honestly, nothing’s less adorable than a rape apologist. I did get some larfs picking apart your dumbassery, though, so thanks for that.