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	<title>Comments on: NY Post Sez: Prison Sex is Romance, Not Rape!</title>
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		<title>By: Skada</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2011/03/20/ny-post-sez-prison-sex-is-romance-not-rape/comment-page-1/#comment-65655</link>
		<dc:creator>Skada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2011 02:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I think there’s also the overtone here, as there is with the stories about women who send love letters to men in prison and so forth, that these women have something wrong with them because they’re interested in these men, which adds to the prurient nature of the reporting.&lt;/i&gt;

I agree.  And I think it&#039;s dangerous.  

It positions inmates as permanently-evil people.  That&#039;s not to say that there aren&#039;t some truly dangerous people in prison, who it would be a good idea to stay far away from.  There are.  But there are also people in prison who are innocent, who have changed, who have suffered under the prison system, etc.  

And not only does this bad vs. good dichotomy paint all inmates as evil (and, thus, a woman&#039;s attraction to an inmate as unnatural or messed up), but it also tends to paint non-inmates as good.  It implies, by proxy, that people outside of a jail are &quot;safe&quot; or &quot;normal,&quot; etc.  And that&#039;s very problematic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I think there’s also the overtone here, as there is with the stories about women who send love letters to men in prison and so forth, that these women have something wrong with them because they’re interested in these men, which adds to the prurient nature of the reporting.</i></p>
<p>I agree.  And I think it&#8217;s dangerous.  </p>
<p>It positions inmates as permanently-evil people.  That&#8217;s not to say that there aren&#8217;t some truly dangerous people in prison, who it would be a good idea to stay far away from.  There are.  But there are also people in prison who are innocent, who have changed, who have suffered under the prison system, etc.  </p>
<p>And not only does this bad vs. good dichotomy paint all inmates as evil (and, thus, a woman&#8217;s attraction to an inmate as unnatural or messed up), but it also tends to paint non-inmates as good.  It implies, by proxy, that people outside of a jail are &#8220;safe&#8221; or &#8220;normal,&#8221; etc.  And that&#8217;s very problematic.</p>
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		<title>By: baraqiel</title>
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		<dc:creator>baraqiel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2011 19:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think there&#039;s also the overtone here, as there is with the stories about women who send love letters to men in prison and so forth, that these women have something wrong with them because they&#039;re interested in these men, which adds to the prurient nature of the reporting.  Of course, in this case, the women *do* have something wrong with them, but it&#039;s not that they have the capacity to find men in prison sexually attractive, it&#039;s that they have no sense of ethics or empathy for the people whose wellbeing they&#039;re supposed to be protecting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there&#8217;s also the overtone here, as there is with the stories about women who send love letters to men in prison and so forth, that these women have something wrong with them because they&#8217;re interested in these men, which adds to the prurient nature of the reporting.  Of course, in this case, the women *do* have something wrong with them, but it&#8217;s not that they have the capacity to find men in prison sexually attractive, it&#8217;s that they have no sense of ethics or empathy for the people whose wellbeing they&#8217;re supposed to be protecting.</p>
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		<title>By: Lars</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2011 12:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is truly irresponsible, but unfortunately not surprising; many newspapers (and other media) will pick titillation over news any day - it sells. 

&quot;Prison sex&quot; is a porn classic.  The &quot;female guard / male inmate&quot; is just too good to let go.  The slut shaming, the nasty attitude to female sexuality, and the overall tone follows.   As is often the case, the newspaper is doing soft porn, because readers prefer that to news.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is truly irresponsible, but unfortunately not surprising; many newspapers (and other media) will pick titillation over news any day &#8211; it sells. </p>
<p>&#8220;Prison sex&#8221; is a porn classic.  The &#8220;female guard / male inmate&#8221; is just too good to let go.  The slut shaming, the nasty attitude to female sexuality, and the overall tone follows.   As is often the case, the newspaper is doing soft porn, because readers prefer that to news.</p>
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		<title>By: BeckySharper</title>
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		<dc:creator>BeckySharper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2011 12:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Joe: I think what you&#039;re describing happens quite a bit, especially since correction officers (and police as well) often come from the same neighborhoods, cultures and social circles as prisoners.  Thing is, when you&#039;re the corrections officer, &quot;romance&quot; is still a serious abuse of your power. Think about it...if a male inmate is in that situation and DOES NOT want to get involved romantically or sexually, what&#039;s he going to do? He&#039;s vulnerable because the guard can retaliate against him and he has no power to protect himself.  That&#039;s why the law defines all inmates as not having the ability to consent. The corrections officers know that when they take the job, so they know having sex with inmates is a crime.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Joe: I think what you&#8217;re describing happens quite a bit, especially since correction officers (and police as well) often come from the same neighborhoods, cultures and social circles as prisoners.  Thing is, when you&#8217;re the corrections officer, &#8220;romance&#8221; is still a serious abuse of your power. Think about it&#8230;if a male inmate is in that situation and DOES NOT want to get involved romantically or sexually, what&#8217;s he going to do? He&#8217;s vulnerable because the guard can retaliate against him and he has no power to protect himself.  That&#8217;s why the law defines all inmates as not having the ability to consent. The corrections officers know that when they take the job, so they know having sex with inmates is a crime.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2011 09:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dunno if Ms. Becky wants comments on the journalism here or the actual issue.  I did time in the (southern) county jail here for DUI and it seemed to me some of the officers and inmates KNEW each other, so if there were relationships present, &#039;romance&#039; might be possible.  On the subject itself, there were nice officers and one who would walk thru the large holding cell and step on you.. literally step on you on the floor (it was overcrowded).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dunno if Ms. Becky wants comments on the journalism here or the actual issue.  I did time in the (southern) county jail here for DUI and it seemed to me some of the officers and inmates KNEW each other, so if there were relationships present, &#8216;romance&#8217; might be possible.  On the subject itself, there were nice officers and one who would walk thru the large holding cell and step on you.. literally step on you on the floor (it was overcrowded).</p>
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		<title>By: drahill</title>
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		<dc:creator>drahill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2011 04:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Okay, lemme speak for a second as a former inmate...

I agree that what is happening here is clearly a sex crime. I don&#039;t say that because the law defines it as such (tho I&#039;m glad it does). It&#039;s because I dare say any inmate propositioned by a guard rarely has the opportunity to decline (and a propositioned guard always has the duty to say no). The inherent power differential makes it a sex crime.

When I was in jail, the guards feel into basically three groups: those that sorta felt bad for you and mostly left you alone; those who were completely indifferent to you and left you alone; and the ones who used the power as an excuse to fuck with you. It was solely a matter of luck who you get stuck with on any given day.

I think single-gender systems may help SOME. But i also believe that they won&#039;t curb the root cause of abuse, which is the centralization of power in very few hands and little recourse for the abused. The Stanford Prison Experiment was a great example of same-gender abuses that were about, above all, power. I&#039;m a big fan of low-intervention prison models and dormatories (which I experienced), where the inmates are generally left alone in less-restrictive settings. This won&#039;t work for especially violent inmates or a lot of others, but I think it&#039;s a start.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, lemme speak for a second as a former inmate&#8230;</p>
<p>I agree that what is happening here is clearly a sex crime. I don&#8217;t say that because the law defines it as such (tho I&#8217;m glad it does). It&#8217;s because I dare say any inmate propositioned by a guard rarely has the opportunity to decline (and a propositioned guard always has the duty to say no). The inherent power differential makes it a sex crime.</p>
<p>When I was in jail, the guards feel into basically three groups: those that sorta felt bad for you and mostly left you alone; those who were completely indifferent to you and left you alone; and the ones who used the power as an excuse to fuck with you. It was solely a matter of luck who you get stuck with on any given day.</p>
<p>I think single-gender systems may help SOME. But i also believe that they won&#8217;t curb the root cause of abuse, which is the centralization of power in very few hands and little recourse for the abused. The Stanford Prison Experiment was a great example of same-gender abuses that were about, above all, power. I&#8217;m a big fan of low-intervention prison models and dormatories (which I experienced), where the inmates are generally left alone in less-restrictive settings. This won&#8217;t work for especially violent inmates or a lot of others, but I think it&#8217;s a start.</p>
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		<title>By: veggiewood</title>
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		<dc:creator>veggiewood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2011 04:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And I thought I had the worst job ever to meet men.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I thought I had the worst job ever to meet men.</p>
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