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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Women and Minorities Encouraged to Apply&#8230;&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Jim Ely</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2011/04/11/women-and-minorities-encouraged-to-apply/comment-page-1/#comment-89532</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Ely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2012 03:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Either way, the statement reeks of agenda. It is just plain stupid, unprofessional, and biased, to make any blanket suggestions to potential applicants.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Either way, the statement reeks of agenda. It is just plain stupid, unprofessional, and biased, to make any blanket suggestions to potential applicants.</p>
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		<title>By: Koffi</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2011/04/11/women-and-minorities-encouraged-to-apply/comment-page-1/#comment-77010</link>
		<dc:creator>Koffi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Nov 2011 16:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In most cases women and minorities hired in the name of equal opportunities never really get real opportunities - It&#039;s just a mask to appeal to this stinking cover-up. I was the only black male employed by this Business Intelligence group in the UK. Everything I did got a pat on my back, but I was often dropped in the name of manning the office whenever training opportunities came up. Yet to my surprise they never hesitated to include me on the front pages of the Newsletters and Annual reports. When I got sacked due to a tight budget, 2 weeks later they employed a white male in my position. Probably off-topic, but the point I am trying to make here is, don&#039;t expect to be treated fairly just because you got hired under the &#039;women and minorities&#039; pretence. In most cases organisations hiring with such statements are desparate to be seen doing the right thing, when in fact they do not have the experience of working with people from diverse backgrounds.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In most cases women and minorities hired in the name of equal opportunities never really get real opportunities &#8211; It&#8217;s just a mask to appeal to this stinking cover-up. I was the only black male employed by this Business Intelligence group in the UK. Everything I did got a pat on my back, but I was often dropped in the name of manning the office whenever training opportunities came up. Yet to my surprise they never hesitated to include me on the front pages of the Newsletters and Annual reports. When I got sacked due to a tight budget, 2 weeks later they employed a white male in my position. Probably off-topic, but the point I am trying to make here is, don&#8217;t expect to be treated fairly just because you got hired under the &#8216;women and minorities&#8217; pretence. In most cases organisations hiring with such statements are desparate to be seen doing the right thing, when in fact they do not have the experience of working with people from diverse backgrounds.</p>
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		<title>By: BeckySharper</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2011/04/11/women-and-minorities-encouraged-to-apply/comment-page-1/#comment-71633</link>
		<dc:creator>BeckySharper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2011 02:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Pollynkorect: It would be unnecessary, as men and majorities are not victims of discrimination or exclusion the way women and minorities are. 

But I can see how a &quot;pollynkorect&quot; person like yourself might have difficulty understanding that, and might have different views on what&#039;s &quot;appropriate.&quot; (Hint: Your deliberately being a dick about efforts to end discrimination---that&#039;s inappropriate.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Pollynkorect: It would be unnecessary, as men and majorities are not victims of discrimination or exclusion the way women and minorities are. </p>
<p>But I can see how a &#8220;pollynkorect&#8221; person like yourself might have difficulty understanding that, and might have different views on what&#8217;s &#8220;appropriate.&#8221; (Hint: Your deliberately being a dick about efforts to end discrimination&#8212;that&#8217;s inappropriate.)</p>
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		<title>By: Pollynkorect</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2011/04/11/women-and-minorities-encouraged-to-apply/comment-page-1/#comment-71629</link>
		<dc:creator>Pollynkorect</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2011 00:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Would be acceptable to run an ad that said: &quot;Men and majorities are encouraged to apply&quot;?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would be acceptable to run an ad that said: &#8220;Men and majorities are encouraged to apply&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2011 15:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“Don’t pluck arrows out of the air and stick them in your chest when they aren’t meant for you!” - love it!

Having said that, I can see your classmate&#039;s point of view. I agree in encouraging minorities to apply. However, I strongly disagree with preferential treatment towards minorities due to the fact they are minorities. When I see &#039;preference given to minorities&#039; in a job description, I find that downright discriminating. If two applicants from different demographics apply for the same job, it should be given to the person with the best qualifications. Anything else than that is discrimination.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Don’t pluck arrows out of the air and stick them in your chest when they aren’t meant for you!” &#8211; love it!</p>
<p>Having said that, I can see your classmate&#8217;s point of view. I agree in encouraging minorities to apply. However, I strongly disagree with preferential treatment towards minorities due to the fact they are minorities. When I see &#8216;preference given to minorities&#8217; in a job description, I find that downright discriminating. If two applicants from different demographics apply for the same job, it should be given to the person with the best qualifications. Anything else than that is discrimination.</p>
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		<title>By: Why We Make It Personal: More Thoughts About Talking Sex - The Pursuit of Harpyness</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2011/04/11/women-and-minorities-encouraged-to-apply/comment-page-1/#comment-67225</link>
		<dc:creator>Why We Make It Personal: More Thoughts About Talking Sex - The Pursuit of Harpyness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 11:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] or sexual experience as personal judgment. In other words, we grab all the arrows that fly by and plunge them into our own chests &#8212; even when they aren&#8217;t meant for us!  Why is [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] or sexual experience as personal judgment. In other words, we grab all the arrows that fly by and plunge them into our own chests &#8212; even when they aren&#8217;t meant for us!  Why is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: oh hells nah</title>
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		<dc:creator>oh hells nah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2011 21:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have been talking about this a lot lately since I am currently underemployed. Everyone is taken aback by this since I am &quot;a smart and accomplished minority woman.&quot; I don&#039;t think affirmative action has helped me whatsoever, (though I wish it would right now). I know that my name hinders me everywhere and I resent it when people don&#039;t acknowledge this reality. Thanks for posting this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been talking about this a lot lately since I am currently underemployed. Everyone is taken aback by this since I am &#8220;a smart and accomplished minority woman.&#8221; I don&#8217;t think affirmative action has helped me whatsoever, (though I wish it would right now). I know that my name hinders me everywhere and I resent it when people don&#8217;t acknowledge this reality. Thanks for posting this.</p>
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		<title>By: Pharm Sci Grad</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2011/04/11/women-and-minorities-encouraged-to-apply/comment-page-1/#comment-66891</link>
		<dc:creator>Pharm Sci Grad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 02:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know I&#039;ve been tough on some of the minorities I&#039;ve worked with when I had once/never encountered a person of their ethnic background before.  

It wasn&#039;t until I met enough of them that I could really differentiate in my own mind what I could attribute to the huge differences in culture and what I should attribute to personality that this changed.  I&#039;m sure I made life more difficult for some of them with my behavior, but I feel that with their help I now can identify and understand these cultural differences (in those that have joined our workplace since).  

I wish it didn&#039;t have to be that way, but I grew up in a white town where I didn&#039;t realize Hispanics were a minority and I seldom met any other races/ethinicities.  So I could definitely understand why a minority wouldn&#039;t want to be the &quot;first&quot; - but do know that some of us with priviledge are aware of our ignorance and anxious to learn.

As to the women end of things, I don&#039;t blink at it.  I know I&#039;m at a disadvantage with a female name and I cope by trying to be better than the average male.  I don&#039;t like it, but I can&#039;t say those words change my feelings about it at all as I look at that phrase as a &quot;politically correct&quot; thing rather than actually meaningful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I&#8217;ve been tough on some of the minorities I&#8217;ve worked with when I had once/never encountered a person of their ethnic background before.  </p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t until I met enough of them that I could really differentiate in my own mind what I could attribute to the huge differences in culture and what I should attribute to personality that this changed.  I&#8217;m sure I made life more difficult for some of them with my behavior, but I feel that with their help I now can identify and understand these cultural differences (in those that have joined our workplace since).  </p>
<p>I wish it didn&#8217;t have to be that way, but I grew up in a white town where I didn&#8217;t realize Hispanics were a minority and I seldom met any other races/ethinicities.  So I could definitely understand why a minority wouldn&#8217;t want to be the &#8220;first&#8221; &#8211; but do know that some of us with priviledge are aware of our ignorance and anxious to learn.</p>
<p>As to the women end of things, I don&#8217;t blink at it.  I know I&#8217;m at a disadvantage with a female name and I cope by trying to be better than the average male.  I don&#8217;t like it, but I can&#8217;t say those words change my feelings about it at all as I look at that phrase as a &#8220;politically correct&#8221; thing rather than actually meaningful.</p>
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		<title>By: mischiefmanager</title>
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		<dc:creator>mischiefmanager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 01:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When you belong to a minority, there&#039;s always a tug between wanting to get out and represent and getting tired of always being the representative of your whole demographic.  A statement that women and minorities are encouraged to apply might show that a company is really aware of its lack of diversity and wants to improve.  But it could also end up as you being the only whatever in the company and having to carry that, answer everyone&#039;s well-intentioned questions, and hope that you do well enough that they hire another minority of some sort.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you belong to a minority, there&#8217;s always a tug between wanting to get out and represent and getting tired of always being the representative of your whole demographic.  A statement that women and minorities are encouraged to apply might show that a company is really aware of its lack of diversity and wants to improve.  But it could also end up as you being the only whatever in the company and having to carry that, answer everyone&#8217;s well-intentioned questions, and hope that you do well enough that they hire another minority of some sort.</p>
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		<title>By: viajera</title>
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		<dc:creator>viajera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 23:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve never thought much of that terminology, as it&#039;s pretty much ubiquitous in my field(s).  Both academic and non-profit jobs in my scientific field nearly always include this line.  It&#039;s my understanding that it&#039;s a requirement originating from the university&#039;s policies and/or the grant funding the position - NSF in particular places strong emphasis on hiring and funding work by women and minorities.  

However, whether this means women and minorities really ARE encouraged to apply is another question.  I&#039;ve said this before, but my department had zero female faculty members for the first 3 years I was here, and still has no minorities (though this is in large part because there truly are very few minorities in my field at any level).  Across my field as a whole, women dominate at the student (UG, MS, and PhD) and entry-level job levels, but the tenure-track and senior scientist positions are still predominantly held by men.  Women are gradually being hired at higher rates, but there still are subtle (and not-so-subtle) cases of discrimination; one extremely highly qualified female colleague was recently turned down for a TT position (where she would have been the first woman TT professor) because she &quot;wasn&#039;t the right fit.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never thought much of that terminology, as it&#8217;s pretty much ubiquitous in my field(s).  Both academic and non-profit jobs in my scientific field nearly always include this line.  It&#8217;s my understanding that it&#8217;s a requirement originating from the university&#8217;s policies and/or the grant funding the position &#8211; NSF in particular places strong emphasis on hiring and funding work by women and minorities.  </p>
<p>However, whether this means women and minorities really ARE encouraged to apply is another question.  I&#8217;ve said this before, but my department had zero female faculty members for the first 3 years I was here, and still has no minorities (though this is in large part because there truly are very few minorities in my field at any level).  Across my field as a whole, women dominate at the student (UG, MS, and PhD) and entry-level job levels, but the tenure-track and senior scientist positions are still predominantly held by men.  Women are gradually being hired at higher rates, but there still are subtle (and not-so-subtle) cases of discrimination; one extremely highly qualified female colleague was recently turned down for a TT position (where she would have been the first woman TT professor) because she &#8220;wasn&#8217;t the right fit.&#8221;</p>
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