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		<title>By: BeckySharper</title>
		<link>http://www.harpyness.com/2011/08/29/relative-terms/comment-page-1/#comment-72329</link>
		<dc:creator>BeckySharper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2011 00:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt; We have terms for “my fathers new partners child with someone else” etc., and those are in common use. &lt;/em&gt;

Really? What are they? Maybe I should incorporate them into my vocabulary!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em> We have terms for “my fathers new partners child with someone else” etc., and those are in common use. </em></p>
<p>Really? What are they? Maybe I should incorporate them into my vocabulary!</p>
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		<title>By: Lars</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 23:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not much to add to what has already been said, other than I&#039;m really, really surprised to hear that you guys still use the term half-brother.  I live in Scandinavia, and while I remember the term, I haven&#039;t heard it used for 20+ years at least.  

We have terms for &quot;my fathers new partners child with someone else&quot; etc., and those are in common use.  But half-brother?  No.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not much to add to what has already been said, other than I&#8217;m really, really surprised to hear that you guys still use the term half-brother.  I live in Scandinavia, and while I remember the term, I haven&#8217;t heard it used for 20+ years at least.  </p>
<p>We have terms for &#8220;my fathers new partners child with someone else&#8221; etc., and those are in common use.  But half-brother?  No.</p>
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		<title>By: Mackey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mackey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2011 06:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[harpies, this is fantastic.. and great analysis.. I just wanted to share a little anecdote when I was little. As some harpies are aware, I come from a massive family*, that yes includes blending.
 
I remember when I was little it was my older brother who would pick me up from pre-school. One day the teacher asked why my brother was a lot older than me, and I said because he comes from my mum&#039;s first marriage (which is true). The kindy teacher did a similar thing to the nurse, &quot;oh, so he&#039;s your half brother&quot;. I remember looking at her oddly and saying, &quot;no he&#039;s my brother&quot;.

And how I felt comfortable answering the teacher in that way, is the way my older brother would respond to people who would say similar things as well. I remember hearing my brother respond to &quot;so she&#039;s only your half sister&quot;, with &quot;no she&#039;s actually my full sister, she&#039;s my sister all of the time, not half of it&quot;. And it stuck.

* It&#039;s massively blended, with &quot;full&quot; and &quot;half&quot; blood siblings, and a whole bunch of technically step-siblings as well. However I didn&#039;t grow up with them or know these step-siblings, so they are not really siblings per se, or constitue the orbit of what is defined as my family.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>harpies, this is fantastic.. and great analysis.. I just wanted to share a little anecdote when I was little. As some harpies are aware, I come from a massive family*, that yes includes blending.</p>
<p>I remember when I was little it was my older brother who would pick me up from pre-school. One day the teacher asked why my brother was a lot older than me, and I said because he comes from my mum&#8217;s first marriage (which is true). The kindy teacher did a similar thing to the nurse, &#8220;oh, so he&#8217;s your half brother&#8221;. I remember looking at her oddly and saying, &#8220;no he&#8217;s my brother&#8221;.</p>
<p>And how I felt comfortable answering the teacher in that way, is the way my older brother would respond to people who would say similar things as well. I remember hearing my brother respond to &#8220;so she&#8217;s only your half sister&#8221;, with &#8220;no she&#8217;s actually my full sister, she&#8217;s my sister all of the time, not half of it&#8221;. And it stuck.</p>
<p>* It&#8217;s massively blended, with &#8220;full&#8221; and &#8220;half&#8221; blood siblings, and a whole bunch of technically step-siblings as well. However I didn&#8217;t grow up with them or know these step-siblings, so they are not really siblings per se, or constitue the orbit of what is defined as my family.</p>
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		<title>By: rodriguez</title>
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		<dc:creator>rodriguez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2011 02:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[mm, I just spent a few minutes trying to come up with some puns on their names around academic subjects but I couldn&#039;t get beyond TRIGonometry. .:(]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mm, I just spent a few minutes trying to come up with some puns on their names around academic subjects but I couldn&#8217;t get beyond TRIGonometry. .:(</p>
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		<title>By: mischiefmanager</title>
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		<dc:creator>mischiefmanager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 21:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How much do you want to bet that the same people who are obsessed with,to quote Amanda, Sperm Magic, don&#039;t want anyone teaching children how babies are made?

I don&#039;t like the names of Sarah Palin&#039;s kids.  Do I get to call them something else?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How much do you want to bet that the same people who are obsessed with,to quote Amanda, Sperm Magic, don&#8217;t want anyone teaching children how babies are made?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like the names of Sarah Palin&#8217;s kids.  Do I get to call them something else?</p>
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		<title>By: Maehem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maehem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 14:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The nurse was so far out of line, I&#039;ve been speechless since I read the piece.

I have much younger siblings and it never fails that when I refer to them as my brother and my sister, people pause and offer, &quot;Oh, but your mother/father remarried, so they&#039;re really half-siblings.&quot; To which I reply, &quot;Meh, they&#039;re my siblings.&quot; 

People have such a need to organize things the way THEY want them organized: gender, race, religion, etc. I think it&#039;s really mind-blowing for them that other people might defy *their* system of organization, and EXPECT to have their self-identification respected.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The nurse was so far out of line, I&#8217;ve been speechless since I read the piece.</p>
<p>I have much younger siblings and it never fails that when I refer to them as my brother and my sister, people pause and offer, &#8220;Oh, but your mother/father remarried, so they&#8217;re really half-siblings.&#8221; To which I reply, &#8220;Meh, they&#8217;re my siblings.&#8221; </p>
<p>People have such a need to organize things the way THEY want them organized: gender, race, religion, etc. I think it&#8217;s really mind-blowing for them that other people might defy *their* system of organization, and EXPECT to have their self-identification respected.</p>
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		<title>By: TJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>TJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 12:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[People need to get over themselves and mind their own business!  Even a small child gets their family and that&#039;s all that matters, not the descriptions others give it.  My family explanation has always been complicated.  Parents divorced when I was 3, father left the state, so mom had help from all kinds of family and friends.  I remember my grandfather taking me to kindergarten the first day and it caused drama.  You&#039;re not her father?  Where&#039;s he?  Where&#039;s her mother?  Her best friend was my second mom, was part of every bit of my world, even to this day.  I&#039;m 41 and still have no issue saying she&#039;s mom, too.  Never was close to my father, I call him the Sperm Donor.  His mother (my mom adored her ex-mother-in-law, kept close to her for my benefit as my father was out of the picture) had three husbands and seven kids.  Two with the first, three with the second then she adopted two with the third.  And a neighbor&#039;s son lived with her because he was gay and his parents didn&#039;t approve and were awful to him.  To me, they all are my aunts and uncles, no half, step or adopted.  I love them, don&#039;t care where they came from.  And to put the cherry on top, same grandma found out when her mom died that she wasn&#039;t her mom, she was her aunt, therefore her brothers were her cousins.  Nope, still were her brothers till she died.  I realize my family tree is all over the place and the village raised me, but I was very loved- no one could ask for more.  Never bothered me a bit that people didn&#039;t understand and seemed horrified by the complexity.  If anything, I&#039;m sorry they weren&#039;t as fortunate as me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People need to get over themselves and mind their own business!  Even a small child gets their family and that&#8217;s all that matters, not the descriptions others give it.  My family explanation has always been complicated.  Parents divorced when I was 3, father left the state, so mom had help from all kinds of family and friends.  I remember my grandfather taking me to kindergarten the first day and it caused drama.  You&#8217;re not her father?  Where&#8217;s he?  Where&#8217;s her mother?  Her best friend was my second mom, was part of every bit of my world, even to this day.  I&#8217;m 41 and still have no issue saying she&#8217;s mom, too.  Never was close to my father, I call him the Sperm Donor.  His mother (my mom adored her ex-mother-in-law, kept close to her for my benefit as my father was out of the picture) had three husbands and seven kids.  Two with the first, three with the second then she adopted two with the third.  And a neighbor&#8217;s son lived with her because he was gay and his parents didn&#8217;t approve and were awful to him.  To me, they all are my aunts and uncles, no half, step or adopted.  I love them, don&#8217;t care where they came from.  And to put the cherry on top, same grandma found out when her mom died that she wasn&#8217;t her mom, she was her aunt, therefore her brothers were her cousins.  Nope, still were her brothers till she died.  I realize my family tree is all over the place and the village raised me, but I was very loved- no one could ask for more.  Never bothered me a bit that people didn&#8217;t understand and seemed horrified by the complexity.  If anything, I&#8217;m sorry they weren&#8217;t as fortunate as me.</p>
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		<title>By: annajcook</title>
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		<dc:creator>annajcook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 12:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m with everyone who was struck by the nurse&#039;s entitlement in correcting the child. I&#039;ve always been struck by how adults often feel perfectly free to control/direct/correct speech or behavior in a child with whom they have no or very little relationship vs. how they would behave towards an adult. Would we ever think to &lt;em&gt;correct&lt;/em&gt; an adult who spoke of their family members using relationship terms we might not think are 100% accurate? I don&#039;t think so. 

I still feel white-hot anger toward a neighborhood mother who, when I was five, chastised me for drinking juice out of a bottle because I was &quot;too old.&quot; Who the fuck was she to tell me off for something that had zero effect on her life or the life of her kids?  I see this nurse&#039;s behavior in the same light -- it&#039;s pointless control over a person who is in the vulnerable position. It&#039;s an abuse of her authority as a school official.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with everyone who was struck by the nurse&#8217;s entitlement in correcting the child. I&#8217;ve always been struck by how adults often feel perfectly free to control/direct/correct speech or behavior in a child with whom they have no or very little relationship vs. how they would behave towards an adult. Would we ever think to <em>correct</em> an adult who spoke of their family members using relationship terms we might not think are 100% accurate? I don&#8217;t think so. </p>
<p>I still feel white-hot anger toward a neighborhood mother who, when I was five, chastised me for drinking juice out of a bottle because I was &#8220;too old.&#8221; Who the fuck was she to tell me off for something that had zero effect on her life or the life of her kids?  I see this nurse&#8217;s behavior in the same light &#8212; it&#8217;s pointless control over a person who is in the vulnerable position. It&#8217;s an abuse of her authority as a school official.</p>
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		<title>By: hayley krischer</title>
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		<dc:creator>hayley krischer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 12:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Becky - Thanks for writing this. So thoughtful and yikes, I cannot believe people actually corrected you. You&#039;d have to restrain me. So many people contacted and approached me individually that I&#039;ve decided to talk to the principal about changing the protocol when discussing families. We live in a very liberal east coast town where off the top of my head, 5 kids have mom/mom or dad/dad situations. How do teachers explain THAT? The answer is, they shouldn&#039;t be. The explanations should come from the family themselves, as Skada mentioned above. Allow the kid to define how it looks and sounds. 

Look, people are entitled to their opinion and when you put yourself out there, not everyone is going to agree. But the reality is, family structure has been changing for a long time and there just has to be an element of sensitivity when dealing with kids. Thanks for your support...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Becky &#8211; Thanks for writing this. So thoughtful and yikes, I cannot believe people actually corrected you. You&#8217;d have to restrain me. So many people contacted and approached me individually that I&#8217;ve decided to talk to the principal about changing the protocol when discussing families. We live in a very liberal east coast town where off the top of my head, 5 kids have mom/mom or dad/dad situations. How do teachers explain THAT? The answer is, they shouldn&#8217;t be. The explanations should come from the family themselves, as Skada mentioned above. Allow the kid to define how it looks and sounds. </p>
<p>Look, people are entitled to their opinion and when you put yourself out there, not everyone is going to agree. But the reality is, family structure has been changing for a long time and there just has to be an element of sensitivity when dealing with kids. Thanks for your support&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Goldfish</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Goldfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 07:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since we&#039;ve had civil partnerships in the UK, which are marriages in everything but name, you get folk - from whom you don&#039;t normally expect bigotry - insist that you can&#039;t use the words &quot;husband&quot; and &quot;wife&quot; within or about these relationships (&quot;You mean civil partner,&quot; they say, as if legal terms are what counts in informal social situations).

We&#039;ve always played around with this stuff.  Historically, lots of husbands and wives weren&#039;t legally married (it&#039;s only a few hundred years since the institution was formalised). And quite apart from the sibling stuff, children always had uncles and aunties, sometimes grannies too, who weren&#039;t blood (or were such complicated relations that it was too much of a mouthful).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since we&#8217;ve had civil partnerships in the UK, which are marriages in everything but name, you get folk &#8211; from whom you don&#8217;t normally expect bigotry &#8211; insist that you can&#8217;t use the words &#8220;husband&#8221; and &#8220;wife&#8221; within or about these relationships (&#8220;You mean civil partner,&#8221; they say, as if legal terms are what counts in informal social situations).</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve always played around with this stuff.  Historically, lots of husbands and wives weren&#8217;t legally married (it&#8217;s only a few hundred years since the institution was formalised). And quite apart from the sibling stuff, children always had uncles and aunties, sometimes grannies too, who weren&#8217;t blood (or were such complicated relations that it was too much of a mouthful).</p>
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